tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post2769956170787562042..comments2023-05-10T02:47:51.886-07:00Comments on GOSSELINS DO NOT NEED OUR PITY: J&K, Change and Product PlacementUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger133125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-64627955741041823652009-01-15T05:41:00.000-08:002009-01-15T05:41:00.000-08:00I figure that the product placement was similar to...I figure that the product placement was similar to a friend telling me that her kids really like playing with a specific toy, or that certain foods turn out to be okay with kids. Sure, they're getting paid for it, but I figure they wouldn't "recommend" it if they didn't actually think it was a little worthwhile.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-72579306615495735692009-01-10T14:53:00.000-08:002009-01-10T14:53:00.000-08:00Also it just doesn't sound right. It works for Bil...<B> Also it just doesn't sound right.</B> It works for Bill Mays and those other late night informercials baby mama. We all know they don't buy anything so no confusion from them on that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-35953063878105611492009-01-10T12:03:00.000-08:002009-01-10T12:03:00.000-08:00"my problem with the product placement is tha..."my problem with the product placement is that a lot of times it's not just a shot of whatever item they're advertising, but that jon and kate talk about how great the toy is without saying that it was something sent to them free in exchange for advertising."<BR/><BR/>Seriously, its dammed if you do and dammed if you dont with these people. Why would anyone want to see Jon & Kate talk about how they got this for free and how they are told to advertise for it? It makes no sense. If they said, "Wow we got this for free and its so great" then the haters would be blogging about how theyre bragging about ANOTHER thing they got free because of these show. Also it just doesn't sound right. If the kids are playing with a v-tech toy, does the advertiser want their clients telling people they got it free in exchange for some publicity? No. Its one of those unspoken rules that are on every single other show out there. But its obviously just one more thing to snark about regarding this family.The Travel Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08652768852732313054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-62614913248389614932009-01-09T19:53:00.000-08:002009-01-09T19:53:00.000-08:00my problem with the product placement is that a lo...my problem with the product placement is that a lot of times it's not just a shot of whatever item they're advertising, but that jon and kate talk about how great the toy is without saying that it was something sent to them free in exchange for advertising.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-52112465880515972782009-01-07T20:13:00.000-08:002009-01-07T20:13:00.000-08:00We are not accepting anonymous comments. ThanksWe are not accepting anonymous comments. ThanksNina Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14176632913586852529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-67927696641243569792009-01-06T11:28:00.000-08:002009-01-06T11:28:00.000-08:00What's funny is that product placement still comes...What's funny is that product placement still comes as a surprise to angry viewers.<BR/><BR/>Remember the first Wayne's World movie circa 1990? There was a whole segment making fun of product placement--for example, Wayne staring into the camera holding a bag of Dorito's just so, crunching happily. Already, this type of marketing was old-hat enough to be joked about.<BR/><BR/>Like some people said, I agree that it's more honest to consumers to have obvious rather than "subliminal" advertising. After Top Gun came out on video, I was sitting with college friends watching it in their room. They'd already seen the movie umpteen times. Near the beginning, when the trainees are all sitting at desks or monitors, there's an almost-inperceptable flash of red in the corner of the screen. My friends said "Watch this!" and paused the video. They rewound frame-by-frame until the red flash became apparent: It was a Pepsi logo. Subliminal advertising at its finest.<BR/><BR/>Imagine the outrage if the Gosselins did THAT!Kuromihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06064903553303525999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-40769144267420561842009-01-05T18:54:00.000-08:002009-01-05T18:54:00.000-08:00You know it's funny Mom, I was thinking about you ...You know it's funny Mom, I was thinking about you this afternoon when a salesperson said we'd do a meeting at a certain restaurant downtown because "I have trade there". I immediately thought of your post and how the heck could I forget trade?? LOL (I am in programming, so that could be the reason because we are not privvy to it as easily as the Sales dept).<BR/><BR/>Yes trade is indeed the salesperson's friend. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-50682988104761139672009-01-05T18:49:00.000-08:002009-01-05T18:49:00.000-08:00Thanks to Guin and Fiona for getting this post goi...Thanks to Guin and Fiona for getting this post going. I had started writing something a week ago and then the damn respiratory virus hit my family over the new year! UGH. I knew AAP and some others wanted to discuss this issue.<BR/><BR/>Theresa - trade comes in handy for entertaining clients - restaurant trade especially! :-)Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15441295999144208760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-90699002598742934022009-01-05T18:43:00.000-08:002009-01-05T18:43:00.000-08:00You're welcome AAP! And, thanks Mom. I totatlly fo...You're welcome AAP! <BR/><BR/>And, thanks Mom. I totatlly forgot about trade. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-39605473648529157272009-01-05T18:05:00.000-08:002009-01-05T18:05:00.000-08:00Theresa & Mom -Thank you for taking the time t...Theresa & Mom -<BR/><BR/>Thank you for taking the time to answer my question!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-62424868669796783382009-01-05T14:09:00.000-08:002009-01-05T14:09:00.000-08:00Thanks for the feedback.I have done some research ...Thanks for the feedback.<BR/><BR/>I have done some research on the Peace Corps and it seems like the places they send the volunteers is very safe. I think I am more worried about the water and food sources, but they teach you how to handle that as well.<BR/><BR/>We are just in the barely talking about it stage, but I think two years away from home, serving others, would be very good for my daughter.FIONAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03027241302948571151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-61686965785554004432009-01-05T11:41:00.000-08:002009-01-05T11:41:00.000-08:00Fiona,My uncle did the Peace Corps back in the mid...Fiona,<BR/><BR/>My uncle did the Peace Corps back in the mid 1960's in Guinea, Africa. He took a ton of slide pictures (way old school) and wrote journals on his experience. He said is was a good learning experience for him but that he would discourage his own children from doing it. I think everyone is different and should follow their hearts. However, the mom in me says it is a very dangerous world out there and to be careful in making big decisions like that. Of course it is dangerous getting on a freeway these days in our own country. I guess my point is just that I heard and saw pictures of an experience that seemed pretty cool even with the danger.MonicaW42https://www.blogger.com/profile/00447849616188176760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-62437705094510006042009-01-05T10:39:00.000-08:002009-01-05T10:39:00.000-08:00Oh Anya, I miss those days too!My daughter is stil...Oh Anya, I miss those days too!<BR/><BR/>My daughter is still home from college on Christmas break, and while it is great to have her home my hubby and I are will be glad when this last week is up!<BR/><BR/>Living in a dorm sure hasn't done anything for her organization-her room is the worst I have ever seen it.<BR/><BR/>I would take her at any age over the teen years, although, I must say we are very thankful to have a kid with a good head on her shoulder.<BR/><BR/>She is working today at a local ski resort...ticket checker and lift attendant. The temp is -2 in the basin where she is today. She has been working 3 days a week over the break and doing alot of skiing.<BR/><BR/>BTW, anyone have any personal stories of the Peace Corps...she sprung it on us last night that it was something she might like to do.<BR/><BR/>Give me Disney over MTV anyday!!!FIONAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03027241302948571151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-43717216241984416872009-01-05T10:03:00.000-08:002009-01-05T10:03:00.000-08:00themrs said..."anya- be thankful you aren't in tha...<B> themrs said..."anya- be thankful you aren't in that demographic! with kids ranging from 2-9 some days i feel like our house is sponsored by the disney channel! you're not missing anything:)</B><BR/><BR/>See, I kinda sorta miss those days! :-( My "baby" is 17. Where did the time go?<BR/><BR/>But, I totally get your point. There is such a thing as too much of a "good" thing! <BR/><BR/>And I am lucky. My daughter loves J&K too so it's something we have in common and can talk about - with teenagers you take it where you can get it!Anya@IWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10277215288731619588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-13673519300673710702009-01-05T09:26:00.000-08:002009-01-05T09:26:00.000-08:00My two cents on....MARKETING TIE INS/PAID ADVERTIS...My two cents on....<BR/><BR/>MARKETING TIE INS/PAID ADVERTISERS:<BR/>Theresa's last post about media buys is correct. The contract is most likely with TLC. It is possible, however, that "trade" (meaning product trade and/or placement) is a part of the contract, hence Juicy Juice, Johnson's (closet of shampoo and products), etc.<BR/><BR/>As far as the trips are concerned, I believe that J&K probably call the shots on those - including hair transplants, teeth whitening, Em Tanner (sp?), etc. To my knowledge, non of those businesses had actually "advertised" on the show.<BR/><BR/>Since I'm an editor, I follow the rules of "editorial integrity" and admit some of the product placement stuff (especially the Tale of Despereaux) bugs me. I realize it's everywhere - in other shows, etc. and most (Juicy Juice, Johnson's) don't necessarily bug me too much.<BR/><BR/>Even though the show has changed, there is a part of me that misses the olden days. It was clear that the Tale of Despereaux reading was scripted. I have no doubt had J&K received the book and all the cute little mice, they would have read to their kids anyway.<BR/><BR/>FREEBIES:<BR/>I honestly could care less about any freebies the Gs get. If a corporation wants to give them a year supply of "whatever," so be it. Obviously, a resort could gain more from a gift like being televised on the show.Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15441295999144208760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-83825693587597681812009-01-05T08:34:00.000-08:002009-01-05T08:34:00.000-08:00JULIE brought news of the house/van vandalism to t...<B>JULIE brought news of the house/van vandalism to the blogosphere.</B><BR/><BR/>I am hoping she was wrong that is getting pretty extreme. Scary for them as well if it is true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-55069702417962786532009-01-05T08:23:00.000-08:002009-01-05T08:23:00.000-08:00So you all know I posted a comment on GWOP for Jul...<B>So you all know I posted a comment on GWOP for Julie to contact the authorities if she felt so sure these kids were in trouble. I also challenged another comment that was made without proof. I was SHOCKED my post never made it lol.</B><BR/><BR/>I know, it makes you wonder about the posts that do make it. Every now and then an opposing view gets through, but it's so nutty that I think it's probably a fake, meant to give the regulars something to pick apart. <BR/><BR/>Julie doesn't know anything about those kids anymore. By her own account, her "source," her sister, hasn't had contact with the Gosselinsfor months. So she knows what you and I do, not much.<BR/><BR/>JULIE brought news of the house/van vandalism to the blogosphere. No one else brought that up. And she wants us to get back to giving the kids <I>privacy</I>? Irony.Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05884219068017641778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-32307952675595902172009-01-05T08:09:00.000-08:002009-01-05T08:09:00.000-08:00well I want to say while we may have our own opini...well I want to say while we may have our own opinions of J&K and the show. This reporter by not moderating that comments sections is probably going what the he@%, hehe. I appreciate being able to discuss this show with passionate, but reasonable and concerned people. So you all know I posted a comment on GWOP for Julie to contact the authorities if she felt so sure these kids were in trouble. I also challenged another comment that was made without proof. I was SHOCKED my post never made it lol.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-48623498968752631702009-01-05T08:07:00.000-08:002009-01-05T08:07:00.000-08:00A doppleganger!A doppleganger!Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05884219068017641778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-15214253572086533132009-01-05T08:02:00.000-08:002009-01-05T08:02:00.000-08:00OKI said I wasn't going to read comment sections a...OK<BR/><BR/>I said I wasn't going to read comment sections anymore as my New Year's Resolution and you encouraged me to break that already, NC Resident. LOL. And I did. All I can say is that I am sure glad that Saint is agreeing with me. I am not going back there to check but I hope I used spell check.Nina Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14176632913586852529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-16883239317148379182009-01-05T07:48:00.000-08:002009-01-05T07:48:00.000-08:00NC ResidentImitation is the best form of flatteryNC Resident<BR/><BR/>Imitation is the best form of flatteryNina Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14176632913586852529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-69904099579576720872009-01-05T07:33:00.000-08:002009-01-05T07:33:00.000-08:00Nina someone has posted using your and Siants name...Nina someone has posted using your and Siants name on the Seattle article. Thought I'd let you know if you didn't see it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-4929269059327475702009-01-05T06:11:00.000-08:002009-01-05T06:11:00.000-08:00anya- be thankful you aren't in that demographic! ...anya- be thankful you aren't in that demographic! with kids ranging from 2-9 some days i feel like our house is sponsored by the disney channel! you're not missing anything:)themrshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05036877130096142872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-57366795552045065022009-01-05T04:40:00.000-08:002009-01-05T04:40:00.000-08:00Oops! Meant to say "radio corporations". :)Oops! Meant to say "radio corporations". :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-44186310293236107382009-01-05T03:16:00.000-08:002009-01-05T03:16:00.000-08:00AAP--Figure 8 is the production crew that films fo...AAP--Figure 8 is the production crew that films for TLC. They are more hands on with the daily filming and work in tandem with TLC. They probably do make arrangements for the show depending on any circumstance. They work hand in hand with someone (most likely a promotions/programming person at TLC)on a daily basis. However, any media buy ($), product sponsor or placement on the TLC network (or any network)(for any of the shows) is bought via the media buyer and contract is placed for TLC (or said network) Any network that airs commercials, product placement or sponsors had the monetary transaction take place before said product/commercials are aired. The network received the money. How they disperse it, I honestly don't know. Since they have a contract with Figure 8, I am sure they get a part (who knows how much) of the media buy. A factor depends on how much the client spends with the network.<BR/><BR/>I am basing my answer on 25 years in the media business. I also have experience with this when working for Disney. That's how it was done for our station. I have worked with our local tv station at a certain point of my career. Currently, I work for one of the largest radio corportions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com