tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post4500650951190084791..comments2023-05-10T02:47:51.886-07:00Comments on GOSSELINS DO NOT NEED OUR PITY: Slopes, Sleds, and SesameUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-89820928677872687772009-03-20T13:50:00.000-07:002009-03-20T13:50:00.000-07:00I was watching one of the daytime episodes recentl...I was watching one of the daytime episodes recently. Where Jon got a new job where he got to come home early and Kate was reorganizing for winter. This was at the end of 2008 i believe. Anyway, when she was explaining about Jons new job, she seemed giddy. And when Jon walked in she seemed excited, and she asked if hes happy he gets to come home early he says Hes happy he gets to see the kids more; to which she responds by saying what about someone else. At this point Jon is turning bright red and he does acknowledge that he is happy to see her too. He was blushing very hard.. <BR/>I think that Jon has a very hard time showing emotion and loving gestures on camera or in public. Which of course doesnt work in their favor because the negative is emphasized, but I do believe these two have a strong love for each other. As for distaste, I dont agree. I agree Kate may speak her mind and Jon doesnt always, but how many of us have thought similar things(to what Kate says) and just decided not to say them, whether because of our personalities, or for whatever reason?<BR/><BR/>I dont know- I guess for the sake of the children I want this family and Jon and Kate's marriage to strengthen and not fall apart.. Its easy for people to just say they should separate but if anyone's noticed, the children are attaching to their parents and each other, splitting them apart would be devastating.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-75428950378342593262009-03-19T01:00:00.000-07:002009-03-19T01:00:00.000-07:00Certainly we have all seen how much distaste they'...<B>Certainly we have all seen how much distaste they've seemed to have for each other over the past year or so</B><BR/><BR/>I don't agree with this, either. I'm not sure that there relationship has even changed all that much. I think that perhaps Kate's dressing downs of Jon are being played up more for ratings. I think we've always seen sniping between them, and we might be seeing more, either because there is more or because the producers have highlighted it more. Either way, I would not call it distaste. I think they probably still love and like each other, but they have an unhealthy communication style and a tendency to take out stress on each other.Guineverehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594898905741204155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-59676381482765201052009-03-18T13:55:00.000-07:002009-03-18T13:55:00.000-07:00I missed the preview can you watch it on the inter...I missed the preview can you watch it on the internet anywhere?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-85307290726275697422009-03-18T13:12:00.000-07:002009-03-18T13:12:00.000-07:00I have five little ones, so I know that's not 8, b...I have five little ones, so I know that's not 8, but still I'm very aware of how loud a house can be and how stressful it could be with a lot of small children. I have no multiples. My personality happens to be more like Michelle Duggar's than Kate's, I'm fairly soft-spoken, and so we don't get into screaming matches like the G's do and I would never think to say anything to a child like "Daddy does do...." whatever. That's their way of communicating, I get that. I'm just saying, I suppose, that the kids are not the cause of this couple's problems, if they in fact exist, because having lots of small children and all that brings does not make us show disregard, distaste (my word), for our spouse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-90492488743915025162009-03-18T12:48:00.000-07:002009-03-18T12:48:00.000-07:00I grew up in a family of eight children and I have...I grew up in a family of eight children and I have a sister with four under the age of four and I am a mother myself and for those who may not know, IT IS STRESSFUL. Between dealing with multiple demands and constantly being on disaster patrol, you spend the whole day mostly along talking to children. You can ask my husband, sometimes my expectations of adult interation are high. He just got home from work and Im exhausted wanting him to step in and help when he wants a break too. Every day is not the best. Yes I do love him, and he does surprise me sometimes by helping around the house but not always.<BR/><BR/>Now put at least five extra people in our house following you around, catching your every word and editing it for the drama, you may not see the lovey dovey stuff. My sister can relate. You just want to tear your hair out. Thinking about it, my moms hair was kind of thin..lol. <BR/>Well some may say that some moms are more mellow, but those moms probably didn't have six at once. When you have one at a time the oldest usually helps with the younger. Not so much for Kate. I admire that she does have as much control as she does. Judging by my husband most men cant handle kid noise as well. Thus the tension..<BR/><BR/>In any episodes that you catch them together after the kids are asleep, they are actually pretty loving to each other. They both love theyre kids and separation or divorce would destroy the eight. I hardly see that as a possibility. I dont think either of them could do it alone. It may be that they have just have gotten too comfortable with each other and need to spice it up a bit, but I do think they deserve a fighting change. Heck, they got throught the first year together, the crying, the feeding, the pooping, the teething, the crawling, falling,(SLEEPLESS NIGHTS) I think they can handle mostly anything.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-51407543934260964352009-03-18T12:31:00.000-07:002009-03-18T12:31:00.000-07:00I don't think that they've shown how much distaste...I don't think that they've shown how much distaste they have for each other this year. <BR/><BR/>I think that parenting pre-school and early elementary age children is stressful for any family let alone when the family has so many of them who are the same age.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-26270831210684506592009-03-18T11:47:00.000-07:002009-03-18T11:47:00.000-07:00Probably no one here will agree with me, but when ...Probably no one here will agree with me, but when I saw that promo I immediately thought that Kate and Jon had had an epiphany (sp?), that they'd let their marriage and relationship deteriorate and have decided to stop the show and focus without cameras on themselves and their family. Although Jon was looking down during the promo, I thought Kate was actually smiling. Certainly we have all seen how much distaste they've seemed to have for each other over the past year or so, and maybe they've just come to that decision and will announce that once a year specials on the kids will be done, but not this ongoing look into their lives. Anyone else?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-37051372753327715372009-03-18T11:10:00.000-07:002009-03-18T11:10:00.000-07:00Robin, you and alot of other people talk about how...Robin, you and alot of other people talk about how J&K "used to be" in the two Discovery Channel specials.<BR/><BR/>I watched the marathon last Sunday too, which started off with those specials. What I noticed, actually, was that Kate and Jon seemed like they were trying to "behave" for the cameras, but then things would happen that revealed their "true nature"--that is, the nature of how they are today.<BR/><BR/>For example, Kate was harping at Jon about getting the kids ready (either for the day or for bed) and sarcastically said something like, "Yeah, because they way you're doing it is going so well." Also, when they were in the Christmas tree patch, she kept hollering at Jon, "Fix the hat of So-and-So! Fix the hat of So-and-So!" It was quite a precursor to the "Hellooooo!-in-ToysRUs" scene. By the way, these things happened before she'd gotten tummy-tucked and coiffed.<BR/><BR/>The one moment that did strike me was when the interviewer asked Jon if he ever resented Kate. He said no, but Kate kept looking at the ground and at one point in a very small voice said something like, "I think sometimes that you do." Kind of a touching, humble moment--so much that maybe most people only remember it, instead of the other stuff I mentioned above.Kuromihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06064903553303525999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-53089554610101580852009-03-18T04:07:00.000-07:002009-03-18T04:07:00.000-07:00Yes I was impressed she was going alone until I sa...Yes I was impressed she was going alone until I saw the empty part of the parking lot and the box seats for the show. I'm sure she parked away from the general pop and they escorted her to the box seats. Anyone can handle that. No need to worry about kids wandering around or going potty since everything is right there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-60059759884187337122009-03-17T23:11:00.000-07:002009-03-17T23:11:00.000-07:00I do think this was preview was a little different...I do think this was preview was a little different, w dramatic bangs and a couple of closeups. It was w/the globetrotter preview which I hadn't seen.<BR/><BR/>Indianprincess, hope you feel better soon.merrywayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15003385150622139910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-5917273411042076582009-03-17T23:08:00.000-07:002009-03-17T23:08:00.000-07:00I am up late and caught ½ of toddlers and tiaras. ...I am up late and caught ½ of toddlers and tiaras. I am laughing so hard at these moms who do the routine along with their daughters.<BR/><BR/>I just saw the promo and I'm not sure if it was different. If it was, it was just a bit different. It was obvious in this one that they are referring to their marriage. I can't believe that's the finale, I hope it's just something they're adding on to address rumors or something. Otherwise, wouldn't the timing be off? TLC is sleazy and I agree with you Linda. <BR/><BR/>Maybe they're going to counseling or something and TLC is playing into the timing of the rumors for ratings. <BR/><BR/>Guin, TLC didn't say there would be an announcement, but it begins with “it's all been building to this”, so it's the answer to “this” that they're talking about.merrywayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15003385150622139910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-14490013206091853562009-03-17T21:45:00.000-07:002009-03-17T21:45:00.000-07:00Not trying to be a Gosselin-basher, but the declin...Not trying to be a Gosselin-basher, but the decline of their marriage has been obvious over the last year or so. Kate seems generally miserable. And they've just seen very uncomfortable with each other during the interviews this whole season. I recently saw the original Discovery documentary from a few years back and they were vastly different people in that show. I'm pretty sure next week's episode will be about couples counseling, separation or the end of the series.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-70699748248431971282009-03-17T20:34:00.000-07:002009-03-17T20:34:00.000-07:00I missed this episode last night. I wanted to watc...I missed this episode last night. I wanted to watch it because I love downhill skiing but something came up and I wasn't able too.Darlene Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00707107140495194974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-14631460731052006232009-03-17T20:08:00.000-07:002009-03-17T20:08:00.000-07:00My first reaction to the promo was yuck. It isn't...My first reaction to the promo was yuck. It isn't because I think that they are going to announce a divorce or separation or marital difficulty. <BR/><BR/>My reaction is YUCK because I think that they (TLC and Figure 8) are playing to lowest common denominator of their viewership (which by the way isn't necessarily the fan base.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-62307410030615845352009-03-17T18:43:00.000-07:002009-03-17T18:43:00.000-07:00Ok, so maybe I am reading too much in to this...an...Ok, so maybe I am reading too much in to this...and maybe my interpretation is totally off base but anyways. I saw the preview again and I really payed close attention to it and I noticed Jon's arm around Kate. No they aren't all snuggled up clos but it is atleast more than we have been getting lately. Once again...tell me if you think I am a crazy "sheeple." But I think its a good sign :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-51435080067424707742009-03-17T17:17:00.000-07:002009-03-17T17:17:00.000-07:00Anonymous, please resubmit your comment with a scr...Anonymous, please resubmit your comment with a screenname. Thanks!Lizzyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07466216446332311525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-37163212831872957642009-03-17T16:13:00.000-07:002009-03-17T16:13:00.000-07:00The Gosselins wouldn't be the first couple who pus...<B>The Gosselins wouldn't be the first couple who pushed their marriage farther and farther down the list of priorities as life gets crazy. <BR/><BR/>It's a good wake-up call that your marriage needs attention, and putting your head down and just getting through day-by-day isn't enough right now. <BR/><BR/>Most of us wouldn't have our marital hiccups plastered all over the media like the Gosselin's have been, so...I'm thinking they got it. <BR/><BR/>I think they're pretty normal people dealing with some pretty extraordinary circumstances. I also think they're a strong enough couple to figure it out.</B><BR/><BR/>Very well said Marci. I think they've really put their marriage to the test with the cameras and add onto the stress of everyday living with a small classroom, plus traveling, that'll make any marriage strain. <BR/><BR/>They haven't made themselves a priority for quite some time it seems. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said they are a strong enough couple to figure it out. I believe their faith in God will get them through this. Perhaps that trip alone I posted earlier will be a retreat of some sorts. Kate has mentioned in articles that she has wished they showed their religion more. If any a time, this would be a good time for that.Theresahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06640333502031398121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-61806810878852344742009-03-17T15:25:00.000-07:002009-03-17T15:25:00.000-07:00Well, I can't believe I totally missed last night'...Well, I can't believe I totally missed last night's episode, but I DID just get to see the promo for next week! WOW! <BR/>I agree that it would be very poor taste for TLC to use Jon and Kate's marital status to try to promote ratings. <BR/>I am hoping that they will address some of the rumors that have been flying around and put them to rest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-81140160501038925952009-03-17T15:13:00.000-07:002009-03-17T15:13:00.000-07:00Marci: Beautifully said. Although I'm not a Kate...Marci: Beautifully said. Although I'm not a Kate fan, I do agree with you that ones marriage can be pushed to the back burner. Add to that mix, eight children, and I certainly can see how that can happen. What still needs to be addressed by them though, is Kate's harping and belittling attitude. <BR/><BR/>I understand how Jon could feel lonely and under-appreciated in his new role of SAHF. When I quit work to stay home with my kids, I felt very alone and isolated too. It was such a change from being in charge at work. At least my husband was coming home from work each night, unlike Kate who is away on business a lot. I see how this can be hard on a relationship, but I feel unless they learn to treat each other with more respect, the outcome won't be good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-45563155603459661992009-03-17T14:30:00.000-07:002009-03-17T14:30:00.000-07:00It makes me sad that the family's dirty laundry is...<B>It makes me sad that the family's dirty laundry is being aired; but perhaps they like it that way because it increases ratings? I'm not sure why else Jon and Kate would allow it to be shown.</B><BR/><BR/>I think an argument could fairly be made that the Gosselins have been open with other aspects of their lives; why should this be any different? I mean, I think they will definitely get criticized if they do choose to "air their dirty laundry", but I think they would also be criticized (with some justification) for saying it was private, after showing so many private moments in the past, both their own and their childrens'.<BR/><BR/><B>Just because Cara and Jon share an interest doesn't mean Mady should be left out of spending time with her Dad. I hope he finds a weekend where he can share time alone with Mady. I believe Mady would thrive with alone time with her Dad as much as Cara did.</B><BR/><BR/>I wouldn't assume that he won't do something alone with Mady. I think it's good to give the kids one on one time, as much as possible, with each parent.<BR/><BR/>Everyone keeps talking about an "announcement" - did the commercials specifically say that there would be an announcement? Either I missed that or saw a different commercial. If TLC is playing up something in their promos that they don't intend to show, I think that's really tacky.<BR/><BR/><B>I think the suspenceful next episode will be about whether or not they keep the puppies.<BR/><BR/>Apparently they no longer have them.</B><BR/><BR/>Rumors that they no longer have the dogs have been circulating since before we even saw them on the show. There may be some new information (I don't know), but most of these rumors seem to have been created and circulated by haters and troublemakers, so I'm reserving judgment until I actually see someting on the show indicating that they've given the dogs away.Guineverehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594898905741204155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-1738675001884758402009-03-17T14:24:00.000-07:002009-03-17T14:24:00.000-07:00Sheltie Lover said....But I still think that there...<B>Sheltie Lover said....<BR/>But I still think that there have been signs of trouble in the marriage long before any of Jon's nights at the bar happened. The nights out though, may be the straw that broke the camels back.</B><BR/><BR/>Or another possibility....if things came to a head because of this blow up in the media, maybe it's a good starting point for discussions about what they want to do in the future, i.e., how long to continue the show, what Jon's wanting to do with himself jobwise in the future, balancing Kate's time in and out of the home in the future.<BR/><BR/>Sometimes it takes things coming to a natural pinnacle, where a couple can no longer allow the busy-ness and stress of everyday life to distract them from their marriage any longer. I think this happens to most couples, probably more than one time in the course of their relationships. <BR/><BR/>The Gosselins wouldn't be the first couple who pushed their marriage farther and farther down the list of priorities as life gets crazy. <BR/><BR/>It's a good wake-up call that your marriage needs attention, and putting your head down and just getting through day-by-day isn't enough right now. <BR/><BR/>Most of us wouldn't have our marital hiccups plastered all over the media like the Gosselin's have been, so...I'm thinking they got it. <BR/><BR/>I think they're pretty normal people dealing with some pretty extraordinary circumstances. I also think they're a strong enough couple to figure it out.marcihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13281734978135533903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-7977214088649050362009-03-17T13:56:00.000-07:002009-03-17T13:56:00.000-07:00More Cowbell said: ......Is Kate pissed? Probably...More Cowbell said: ......Is Kate pissed? Probably. Simply because it was a dumb thing to do since Jon is now a recognizable figure. It is grounds for divorce? Hardly.<BR/><BR/>I totally agree with you Cowbell. Jon going out and blowing off some steam was probably quite innocent and certainly shouldn't be grounds for divorce. <BR/><BR/>But I still think that there have been signs of trouble in the marriage long before any of Jon's nights at the bar happened. The nights out though, may be the straw that broke the camels back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-26490504504840034912009-03-17T13:29:00.000-07:002009-03-17T13:29:00.000-07:00How distracted am I that I thought this episode wa...How distracted am I that I thought this episode was when they go to see the Globetrotters??? Like, shouldn't I have gotten the hint from the title of the show?? ;)<BR/><BR/>I loved how much fun Jon and Cara seemed to have in Utah. And Kate seemed to have a relaxing evening with the rest of the kids as well. All around, an enjoyable show.<BR/><BR/>A little theorizing....<BR/><BR/>I saw the promo....like most people here I think it's TLC taking advantage of the hoopla of the last few weeks. I don't know how much later they film the couch interviews from the topic of the episodes, but it will be interesting to see if it feels like a quickie ad-on.<BR/><BR/>My overall impression, like others here, is that Jon has felt kind of left out of the loop since Kate's schedule picked up in September (I think the lunchbox campaign was the first thing she did on her own). I think it's understandable since they'd done EVERYTHING together up until that point...appearances, speaking engagements, the show. <BR/><BR/>I don't think he minded being home with the kids when he was "sharing" the duties with Kate. I think he even mentioned in one of the shows filmed last fall and in the January Utah interview that he was glad he had taken some of the burden off of Kate and she was doing better stresswise.<BR/><BR/>I think last fall was also about the time frame they started doing seperate speaking engagements, trying always to have one parent at home. And, with Kate having more demands outside the home, Jon is just naturally home more.<BR/><BR/>I personally don't get the impression he doesn't like being home with the kids, but that he might have been feeling isolated and even lonely (not talking about female attention here, just a general sense of loneliness). I don't think he realized how those were symptoms of being the stay-at-home parent. And with Kate probably busy and tired, constantly on the go and just needing him to keep it together, he might not have felt he had someone to vent to (After all, he's got it good, right? How <I>dare</I> someone lucky enough to stay home with their kids complain?*sarcasm*)<BR/><BR/>If this is the basic theme they may be addressing next week, I think that's fine (i.e., Jon and Kate dealing with the stress of one spouse who has to travel for work and one who's home with the kids). I don't think it will get any more involved than that, but we'll see, I guess.<BR/><BR/>I don't think they're unaware that their kids will undoubtedly view what they have to say about it in the future, and I highly doubt they wouldn't have addessed it on some level with the older girls privately. I think they probably emphasize with the kids that no matter what is said in public, no one outside their home could possibly know the truth of the situation and that their parents are the best source for how their family is doing.<BR/><BR/>Personally, I think it's a good life lesson for kids to know that parents can disagree, even be unpleasant and react to real-life frustrations, but that parents can also figure out whatever the problem is and work to solve it and make things better.marcihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13281734978135533903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-55010787312982715412009-03-17T13:18:00.000-07:002009-03-17T13:18:00.000-07:00I think the suspenceful next episode will be about...I think the suspenceful next episode will be about whether or not they keep the puppies.<BR/><BR/>Apparently they no longer have them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-25446488104687024822009-03-17T12:56:00.000-07:002009-03-17T12:56:00.000-07:00I really liked the epi. I agree with Que's stateme...I really liked the epi. I agree with Que's statement about next week. Guess we'll have to wait and see.Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15441295999144208760noreply@blogger.com