tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post6334724419633821105..comments2023-05-10T02:47:51.886-07:00Comments on GOSSELINS DO NOT NEED OUR PITY: The Gangs All HereUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger116125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-10849397762469974342009-05-26T11:30:20.591-07:002009-05-26T11:30:20.591-07:00No, their parents did that! How do you reconcile, ...<B>No, their parents did that! How do you reconcile, for their children, that just 9 mos. ago, their parents were promising their love and devotion to each other and to be together forever, and now, mere months later, it blows up in the kids' faces! You don't think they will have trust issues with their parents? Think about it!</B>I think it's weird, but I don't think the Gosselins are the first people in the history of marriage to have problems soon after renewing vows. I mean, I know of celebrities who split soon after they married for the first time. It always does seem strange, because you wonder what the people were thinking. But it happens. <br /><br />Will the kids have trust issues if J&K divorce after Kate promised they would be together forever? Maybe. Most kids learn at one point or another that their parents are fallible.Guineverehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594898905741204155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-63043957485248484902009-05-26T05:30:43.878-07:002009-05-26T05:30:43.878-07:00Just curious if you watched the premier last night...Just curious if you watched the premier last night and if any of your thoughts have changed about the picture? They were clearly not "ok" at the party and the picture was taken right after Kate ordered Jon to sit on the end and take off his sunglasses. At the end she said she was fearful that picture could be their last family picture. What I don't get is that there is no doubt there are big problems. She's angry, he's aloof and distant. Why oh why is she continuing on with this show? If her kids and family are her main priority and why she does everything she does, why would she continue knowing her kids are getting followed by papparazzi and her husband no longer wants to do the show. If by doing everything she does for thekids she means the money she is getting from the show and the books I am truly dissapointed. Kids don't need a mansion and lots of things, they need love and full time parents.Lorihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05599471304773749185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-20289351765148665952009-05-25T09:41:29.294-07:002009-05-25T09:41:29.294-07:00I thought the interview Jon just did on US Weekly ...I thought the interview Jon just did on US Weekly was very telling. Not once did he, or Kate, mention the impact this may or may not have on their kids. Only that he didn't feel "so hot right now". I am not sure what that means but I do wonder if they are in such denial that they do not realize this will definitely have a negative impact on the children, if not immediaately, then in the future. There is no way it cannot.Trishnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-91665831238054499592009-05-25T08:52:13.596-07:002009-05-25T08:52:13.596-07:00No, their parents did that! How do you reconcile, ...No, their parents did that! How do you reconcile, for their children, that just 9 mos. ago, their parents were promising their love and devotion to each other and to be together forever, and now, mere months later, it blows up in the kids' faces! You don't think they will have trust issues with their parents? Think about it!<br /><br />May 24, 2009 8:35 PM<br /><br />*****************<br /><br />I call it TLC capitalizing on the media frenzy. They know what great ratings they're going to get. They provoke it, too, with their promos. Jon and Kate face to face the first time? c'mon, that's pure media manipulation. <br /><br />If J&K may have any say in the way a show is made, they may not have anything in terms of how TLC is marketing this hype. It's easy for TLC to say, "we support the family" and at the same time show promo after promo of Jon talking about how hard it is to be "just Jon, not Jon & Kate plus 8" and Kate talking about not crumbling down and will not die. <br /><br />I predict they've done counseling (privately) and will continue the show. All the rumours from the past two months have just been set in motion for the premiere tonight. And, whatever problems the Gosselins had, may just have been really exaggerated for the public, in light of how rumours are started by the tabloids and their pictures.<br /><br />TLC is a big exploiter of this family.Valerienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-86164194936243843932009-05-24T20:35:59.643-07:002009-05-24T20:35:59.643-07:00That shows why hate blogs are the first thing that...That shows why hate blogs are the first thing that'll mess up these kids in the first place.<br />____<br />No, their parents did that! How do you reconcile, for their children, that just 9 mos. ago, their parents were promising their love and devotion to each other and to be together forever, and now, mere months later, it blows up in the kids' faces! You don't think they will have trust issues with their parents? Think about it!Lilsgirlsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-76382265161160638212009-05-24T15:54:35.152-07:002009-05-24T15:54:35.152-07:00You proved my point Kelly!
Talking in circles doe...You proved my point Kelly!<br /><br />Talking in circles does't cover up your ignorance.Victorianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-58648077503857463372009-05-24T15:43:59.448-07:002009-05-24T15:43:59.448-07:00Victoria said "then tell us why you said such a sn...Victoria said "then tell us why you said such a snide remark?"<br /><br />I never said I "said such a snide remark". In this case, snide is in the eye of the beholder. <br /><br />Then again, I don't consider Jon putting ON his wedding ring is a sign that he's "working on his marriage" anymore than I consider Jon taking OFF his wedding ring means he has given up on his marriage.kelly_luvs_ithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11357985919571233573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-44985830701077091322009-05-24T14:35:48.400-07:002009-05-24T14:35:48.400-07:00Kelly what I wrote was in reference to your sniden...Kelly what I wrote was in reference to your snideness of not knowing what the Gosselins are doing. He's wearing his wedding ring because he obviously believes in his marriage vows. Your snide commment was that "they're filming" is insinuating that that's the only reason he's wearing it. I'm going to borrow a term that was on this blog a bit ago and that is a "backhanded swipe". You didn't come right out and say what you thought about working on a marriage, but you took a backhanded swipe referencing that Jon was only wearing it because you think that they're filming and that he's only wearing it for the "show" because they get paid.<br /><br />If this is not the case, then tell us why you said such a snide remark?Victorianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-70229541635127332202009-05-24T13:22:33.222-07:002009-05-24T13:22:33.222-07:00Victoria said: "I love how those who don't believe...Victoria said: "I love how those who don't believe in working on a marriage are quick to snark on this couple and make the snide comments against them."<br />**********************<br />Please reference where I said I didn't believe in working on a marriage.kelly_luvs_ithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11357985919571233573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-32768033584189587412009-05-24T09:34:51.805-07:002009-05-24T09:34:51.805-07:00kelly_luvs_it said...
BabyMama said: "Jon was wea...<I> kelly_luvs_it said... <br />BabyMama said: "Jon was wearing his wedding ring. I hope that means something."<br />******************************<br />Yes - it means they were filming the show.<br /><br />May 23, 2009 7:14 AM</I>Kelly, I believe the Gosselins are working on their marriage. I love how those who don't believe in working on a marriage are quick to snark on this couple and make the snide comments against them.<br /><br />I give them credit for taking their vows seriously enough to working on them. btw, who cares what detractors like you think? Surely Kate doesn't as evidenced in any of her People magazine interviews and appearances.<br /><br />Also, it's nobody's business but theirs.Victorianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-45846451068388994122009-05-23T07:14:04.588-07:002009-05-23T07:14:04.588-07:00BabyMama said: "Jon was wearing his wedding ring. ...BabyMama said: "Jon was wearing his wedding ring. I hope that means something."<br />******************************<br />Yes - it means they were filming the show.kelly_luvs_ithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11357985919571233573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-77112115852849480862009-05-22T09:12:35.231-07:002009-05-22T09:12:35.231-07:00Replying to AMOM-ynomous:
"I will trust that the S...Replying to AMOM-ynomous:<br />"I will trust that the Sextuplets shouldn't suffer any long term damage from this unless some well meaning folks remind them relentlessly for the next several decades that their parents were horrible for doing such a gastly thing<br /><br />Would you be willing to say this in person to the surviving Dionne Quintuplets?Techymumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-84864260355504631872009-05-21T23:37:02.840-07:002009-05-21T23:37:02.840-07:00Quiltart and Casey,
I agree with both of you. Whi...Quiltart and Casey,<br /><br />I agree with both of you. While I think the negative publicity basically forced Kate to say something, I think it would have been more beneficial if she had made a statement after things were more defined/decided. OP mentioned that she has implied that she believes Jon didn't cheat in some interviews and admitted she's not sure in others, etc. I really don't think that's a piece of information that needs to be shared, but my point is that she started talking without really knowing what she wanted to say/what needed to be said. A statement made later, maybe after they'd decided whether to work on their marriage or not, would've left less room for speculation and for outsiders (like Kevin and Jodi) to throw in their 2 cents. When all of the media blitz first appeared I felt we were getting Twitter-like updates on the state of their marriage (3:05-We are working on it.; 3:45-It's over!; 4:30-Secret contract!; etc.) and that was really unnecessary and contradicted Kate's spoken desire to work on it privately IMO.bigsis88noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-47285891640178867902009-05-21T13:14:27.119-07:002009-05-21T13:14:27.119-07:00I believe Kate has been in other magazines besides...I believe Kate has been in other magazines besides People with her story. She and Jon need to put their kids well-being first and not their own selfish desires. <br /><br />I am glad people close to the situation are speaking out, and I am not just talking about Jodi and Kevin.Caseynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-72171679052457795032009-05-21T08:48:59.563-07:002009-05-21T08:48:59.563-07:00texasmomy said:
I, too, am surprised that he [Dr. ...texasmomy said:<br />I, too, am surprised that he [Dr. Phil] would involve himself with them, but we live in a crazy world.<br /><br />Hey, Dr. Phil got involved with Britney Spears when she was in the hospital, remember! J&K seem to be right up his alley.ChinaMomof4noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-73649436730321034102009-05-21T04:40:23.937-07:002009-05-21T04:40:23.937-07:00Casey said...
Kate had stated that she and Jo...<B> Casey said...<br /><br /> Kate had stated that she and Jon are dealing with their problems privately. Why is she then in a lot of magazines talking about the problems? How fans still defend her is amazing.</B>In light of the incredible amount of calculated negative publicity being thrown at the Gosselins, especially that of Jodi and Kevin, I think it's a no brainer that Kate had to say something. At least she did it through a reputable source, like People, instead of Radar online or some of the other dirty tabloids being fed tidbits by the Gosselin detractors.Quiltarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02934944084243509753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-40550031304055924992009-05-20T20:35:05.535-07:002009-05-20T20:35:05.535-07:00Kate had stated that she and Jon are dealing with ...Kate had stated that she and Jon are dealing with their problems privately. Why is she then in a lot of magazines talking about the problems? How fans still defend her is amazing.Caseynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-9985086286662941442009-05-20T12:15:39.929-07:002009-05-20T12:15:39.929-07:00IF this is media manipulation and the Gosselins ar...<B>IF this is media manipulation and the Gosselins are allowing this and participating it is sick, sick sick. </B>Oh, Mrs. Ref we agree on that. I don't care if it were just adults, but with kids involved, it would be very ugly, IMO.Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05884219068017641778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-6627393301034250132009-05-20T09:35:28.686-07:002009-05-20T09:35:28.686-07:00Texas Mommy,
They had something to "gain" from D...Texas Mommy,<br /><br />They had something to "gain" from Dr. Phil.<br /><br />I personally don't think Jon and Kate should go public with their marriage counseling.Illinois Momnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-17385555041286641722009-05-20T06:42:24.466-07:002009-05-20T06:42:24.466-07:00I believe Blue Falls Grove is a private park. I lo...I believe Blue Falls Grove is a private park. I looked at it years ago as a wedding reception option. If I remember correctly, you have to go past a ticket counter, so the paparazzi would have either snuck in or paid to enter.<br /><br />Also, on ET last night, the anchor mentioned that production was "furiously working on re-shoots" or some such gobbledeegook. How is this reality??? Real life doesn't get "re-shoots." Ugh--I guess it's stuff like this that makes me think we've all been duped for a while into thinking any of it is real. I don't know if I believe Jodi & Kevin, I certainly don't understand why they went to Radaronline to spill the beans, but I think Jon and Kate have been lying to us about much of their lives for awhile. Just don't get it.<br /><br />Anya--thanks for your kind words! I don't get a lot of time online, so I usually don't comment because I spend so much time playing catch-up on the previous comments. But I'm glad if I can add something. <br /><br />Guin--I hope you don't think I'm being contentious just for the sake of it. I can completely appreciate where you are coming from. And I totally get that divorce does not equal death. I guess I wanted to make the point that there is grief for something lost in each case. I was counseled to mourn a divorce in much the same way as a death, because if I didn't, the grief/pain could come back and bite me later. But you're right in that death is much more painful in its finality. Believe me, I know, unfortunately.Rachel107https://www.blogger.com/profile/09554955715290716356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-44283365246727666912009-05-20T05:44:36.014-07:002009-05-20T05:44:36.014-07:00IF this is media manipulation and the Gosselins ar...IF this is media manipulation and the Gosselins are allowing this and participating it is sick, sick sick. There is some speculation that this whole thing is part of a publicity blitz. This certainly would go against the christian values that they proport to have. The gigs up Gosselins.MrsRefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08796830470013840532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-85075581105638229082009-05-20T01:58:21.824-07:002009-05-20T01:58:21.824-07:00"Dr. Phil is a fake. A real marriage counselor or ..."Dr. Phil is a fake. A real marriage counselor or a pastor may be of some assistance but not good old Dr. Phil. I am actually surprised he has gotten involved in this somehow."<br /><br />Mrs.Ref, I wrote the original post about Dr.Phil and I guess the point I was trying to make was that since they have sought his advice in the past and since this is a very PUBLIC scenario, it appears that THEY trust him. And if that is the case, perhaps his "no nonsense approach" could direct them privately to a counselor or clergy in their area to counsel them.<br />I, too, am surprised that he would involve himself with them, but we live in a crazy world.<br />Bottom line is that IMO, whatever can be salvaged, needs to be at least ATTEMPTED for the sake of those 8 babies.<br />I can only wish them the very best!texasmommynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-14226594109502697862009-05-19T21:26:40.912-07:002009-05-19T21:26:40.912-07:00A-Mom said..."I would rather reserve my "empathy" ...<B>A-Mom said..."I would rather reserve my "empathy" for my family and friends that have always been there for me. Not waste it on people who have no clue who I am."<br /><br />That's actually rather sad.<br /><br />Maybe I am reading it wrong, but you really could not have empathy beyond those people you know?<br /><br />I don't expect you to sob over Jon and Kate's break-up (Lord knows I am not)--</B>----------------------<br />You read way to much into it. I only meant that statement in relation to Jon and Kate, and I thought that went without saying, since all that has been discussed on this post is Jon & Kate, plus kids. And NO, I don't feel sorry for Jon and Kate and their marriage even if it was bad because frankly I'm not that invested in the show or their lives. I came on here out of curiosity because this is all hyped up in the media and I wanted to read differeing points of view. IMO, There are other things out there that are worse than a couple of celebrity parents with a problematic marriage. Like a plane crash that kills all the passengers.<br /><br />Plane crash victims and J&K's marriage trouble are not even in the same galaxy.<br /><br /><B>A-Mom said....That's actually rather sad.</B>It really isn't. I'm totally fine with it. Don't waste your empathy on me, as I'm sure there are others that need it more.Tirednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-38843910114006161292009-05-19T20:33:26.560-07:002009-05-19T20:33:26.560-07:00Why on earth would these two subject those childre...<B>Why on earth would these two subject those children to cameras and prying eyes. Do J&K need this much attention focused on their family during this time?</B>We agree on this Mrs Ref. I would have lost my mind by now. I know why it all started; I don't understand why it continues. I understand the position they were in, at first, with all the little ones, no job (for whatever reason...it doesn't even matter) and no income. I think I might have traded in all the volunteers and extra help for the money and cameras, since neither is appealing and one pays. But I doubt I could have tolerated the intrusion beyond the first year. <br /><br />I don't know how the money worked out, though. I'm also not so sure a lot of this is not media manipulation. The timing is SO suspect. I am cynical about reality TV.<br /><br />I have seen the Gosselins criticized for filming private moments and showing them to thousands. I support that criticism. But I have also seen them criticized for so many other things that bother me. I think they have the right to work at public speaking, write and promote books, speak in Christian churches, and endorse commercial products. I do not think anyone should be trying to interfere with their livelihood that way. I think they should be able to celebrate their children's birthdays when and where they want, hire outside help for whatever task they want, and even occasionally eat pizza without being labelled liars. Their family members should not be discussing (and getting paid for it?) what he said or she said about their marital problems. They should be allowed to worship where and when they see fit, get a drink in a bar, post bible quotes on a bathroom mirror, and skip blessing their meals without having their Christianity questioned. The mother should be allowed to work without being accused of being a bad mother. And I cannot pretend that just because I see a child crying that she has a miserable life, nor will I ignore the hours of happy, smiling kids I see in that family and label their lives ruined. All JMO.Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05884219068017641778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-33116649843919869652009-05-19T20:14:35.741-07:002009-05-19T20:14:35.741-07:00A-mom,
I'm in agreement with you . . . how ...A-mom, <br /><br />I'm in agreement with you . . . how can viewers criticize J&K for their poor relationship while they simultaneously say that their portrayal to the public that they are a happy family is a sham? <br /><br />To me, it is the same nonsense that I observe about K portraying herself as "doing it all" while we watch episode after episode of her interviewing helpers, cleaning persons, etc.Lindanoreply@blogger.com