tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post6833556526946280326..comments2023-05-10T02:47:51.886-07:00Comments on GOSSELINS DO NOT NEED OUR PITY: Sound OffUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-90492894015892033812008-09-21T09:05:00.000-07:002008-09-21T09:05:00.000-07:00I agree with Chick, I think the most recent episod...I agree with Chick, I think the most recent episodes have been a bit of damage control. I think TLC realized they were editing for "most drama" and needed to be more careful because they created a villian that was just too good. I also agree that GWoP gives itself too much credit. I think Jon and Kate have their good moments and bad, I think over the run of the show we have seen both. <BR/><BR/>Slightly OT, but the most recent "sightings" comments on GWoP mention that Jon and Kate held a rummage sale in a church parking lot with all proceeds going to charity; yes, as usual with them the cameras were there. As you can probably guess "damage control" appears in every post. Another example of exactly what everyone wants them to do and when it actually happens they scream because Jon and Kate did it wrong (not to their standards). I'm sorry, not Jon and Kate did it wrong; Kate did it wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-43872853511089347832008-09-20T06:25:00.000-07:002008-09-20T06:25:00.000-07:00Damage control or not? I really don't care to tel...Damage control or not? <BR/><BR/>I really don't care to tell you the truth. The kids appear to be happy and that's all that matters in the end.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-51334951017550207662008-09-19T21:49:00.000-07:002008-09-19T21:49:00.000-07:00Well, I think a lot of what we're now seeing i...Well, I think a lot of what we're now seeing is damage control. Do I think anyone in the G8 blogosphere is responsible? Nah, not really. Do I think people will try to take credit? Absolutely.<BR/><BR/>I think that it's likely Figure8 looked back, saw how their portrayal of Kate had slowly changed from "neurotic, anxiety prone, but well meaning and generally loving mom" to "shrill, nasty shrew of a woman who has no respect for her husband and disses her own kids on a regular basis", and they realized that:<BR/><BR/>----while it makes for good TV to have a "villain" in a reality show, making mom the baddie was a huge screw-up<BR/><BR/>----if they kept showing the negative side of Kate, even the most devoted fans would turn the show off<BR/><BR/>----the show had stopped being about how an ordinary family lives under extraordinary circumstances, and had become more of a travelogue<BR/><BR/>----the show was in danger of losing all appeal as the kids grew older and started school<BR/><BR/>Hence, some damage control, or "re-imaging": soften Kate's hard edges, bring the focus back to family, not constant travel, minimize negative publicity with new PR team, and update the old website to emphasize the kids and how cute they still are.<BR/><BR/>Will it work? I hope not. I think the Gosselin kids would be better off camera free, except for yearly or bi-yearly updates.<BR/><BR/>I hope the show ends soon, and I hope J&K have saved up some of the money their children have earned for college and for those inevitable rainy days all families face.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-67954350707541633142008-09-19T19:07:00.000-07:002008-09-19T19:07:00.000-07:00Pepp said... Paul Peterson says "I shopped my arti...<B> Pepp said... <BR/>Paul Peterson says "I shopped my article to every paper and all I got was the lousy Enquirer" </B><BR/><BR/>:-)<BR/><BR/>I haven't had the chance to read the article yet. I went online, but I don't think it's posted there. There are more revelations about Sarah Palin and her family, however. Their secrets are waaayy juicier than the Gosselin's! <BR/><BR/>Seriously, I think it goes to show that Paul Peterson, while having good intentions, is a little too much into grabbing the media spotlight for himself. I don't think the article will accomplish anything other than getting Paul Peterson's name in the paper again.Anya@IWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10277215288731619588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-21920016219597948172008-09-19T18:29:00.000-07:002008-09-19T18:29:00.000-07:00Paul Peterson says "I shopped my article to every ...Paul Peterson says "I shopped my article to every paper and all I got was the lousy Enquirer"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-32252343649373928852008-09-19T16:56:00.000-07:002008-09-19T16:56:00.000-07:00Why would that be a WOW? WOW to me is more, WOW, P...Why would that be a WOW? WOW to me is more, WOW, Paul Peterson is lowering himself to the level of the National Enquirer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-33475340845034635812008-09-19T16:48:00.000-07:002008-09-19T16:48:00.000-07:00Just WOW.. I just purchased my weekly issue of the...Just WOW.. I just purchased my weekly issue of the National Enquirer. Guess who is in this issue? Yep, Paul Peterson is speaking out about Jon$Kate and the damage caused in having their family on the tv. It was a very fair article.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-61234528715828834942008-09-19T15:26:00.000-07:002008-09-19T15:26:00.000-07:00As far as damage control is concerned - I think, t...As far as damage control is concerned - I think, to an extent, a small amount may be. However, I also believe many in blogland are taking too much credit for the apparent change we've seen on TV, as anon 1130 mentioned earlier.<BR/><BR/>For one, these episodes were shot some months ago. I could bet money on the fact that the production dept has enough footage of this family and can make any episode turn in any direction they wish.<BR/><BR/>Anya - I saw PM's note to you and thought it was nice - as was your reply to her.Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15441295999144208760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-52788244934216721632008-09-19T11:55:00.000-07:002008-09-19T11:55:00.000-07:00a said... "This leads me to believe that Kate...<B> a said... <BR/>"This leads me to believe that Kate really is as OCD as the editing may make her appear, and in order to save the show her PR people are adding in these scripted scenes of J & K being all lovey. It's obvious Kate loves the attention from the show, so she'll cool it down a little to keep all those freebies coming in." </B><BR/><BR/>A, I think many of us acknowledge that Kate gives the editors the film to work with. They did not "create" the often anxious, neurotic and snappish sides of Kate we have all seen. From the start, however, we have (or at least I have) seen the nicer, more down to earth and calmer sides to her too. I believe the editing comes into play in <I> how much </I> we see of particular aspects of her personality during a given show.<BR/><BR/>I don't know that the show "needs to be saved." I thought the ratings were still pretty good? Despite the negative blogging of a rather small % of the viewing audience, I don't think there has been a huge backlash against the show. I think the show will probably end on it's own in the not distant future. The sextuplets will go to school and I think much of the viewer interest will continue to wane as they become school-age.Anya@IWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10277215288731619588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-60345977478459008642008-09-19T11:05:00.000-07:002008-09-19T11:05:00.000-07:00Becky...My heart breaks for you, losing your preci...Becky...My heart breaks for you, losing your precious child. How old was she? Thank you for sharing what PennMommy did for you, what a wonderful blessing she was to you. I think she has handled herself well. I don't know that blogging was the best choice but...she has spoken well of the G's. Openly telling everyone that they LOVE their children, while Julie seems to act like they mistreat them. My arguement has always been that they obviously Love the kids but there are some posters that would disagree, I guess they are much better parents then me (and Jon and Kate). I think Kate does a great job and I see myself in her alot when it comes to the kids, the similarities stop when it comes to how we interact with our spouses, lol. <BR/>I'm so glad to find a more balanced board! Yayyy!<BR/>I will second the request for you to share your story...I assume you haven't already shared it, if you have just point me in the right direction and I'll just read what you've already written.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-2575923207142622232008-09-19T10:48:00.000-07:002008-09-19T10:48:00.000-07:00Hi Scarfoot. Thanks for alerting us that the Gosse...Hi Scarfoot. <BR/><BR/>Thanks for alerting us that the Gosselin kids page had been updated.<BR/><BR/>Of course, the girls will be done first. Don't ya know -- boys are yucky :-).....<BR/><BR/>Seriously, the pages are cute. There are some pictures there I haven't seen before. I loved the picture of Alexis sleeping with her leg crossed and the picture of Alexis and Kate together (you can see a resemblence when they are together).Anya@IWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10277215288731619588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-51696016949256319252008-09-19T09:13:00.000-07:002008-09-19T09:13:00.000-07:00Becky, I posted over at PennMommy's asking if you ...Becky,<BR/> I posted over at PennMommy's asking if you cared to share your Gosselin experience. Of course, I totally understand if you don't feel comfortable. <BR/> Sorry about your daughter. That must have been so very difficult.MommyZingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04998105818316217574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-55876070568071026512008-09-19T07:58:00.000-07:002008-09-19T07:58:00.000-07:00As I mentioned before, I think the episodes were e...As I mentioned before, I think the episodes were edited to show the crazy side of Kate, but that being said, J & K admit they view every show before it airs. So, Kate is very aware of the way she comes across. This leads me to believe that Kate really is as OCD as the editing may make her appear, and in order to save the show her PR people are adding in these scripted scenes of J & K being all lovey. It's obvious Kate loves the attention from the show, so she'll cool it down a little to keep all those freebies coming in.Amber Morganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15299626869911344924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-14542897525385543492008-09-19T07:02:00.000-07:002008-09-19T07:02:00.000-07:00Becky - Thanks for stopping by.Becky - <BR/><BR/>Thanks for stopping by.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-13499813072661778172008-09-19T01:20:00.000-07:002008-09-19T01:20:00.000-07:00I read a post on PennMommy's blog from Becky who s...<B>I read a post on PennMommy's blog from Becky who seems to know them and respect them...I think she mentioned this blog so I was hoping to find positive posts on this family (from people that have met them). I'm tired of reading all the snark (that is mostly just opinions) from those who have never even met them.<BR/></B><BR/>I am here. I think this blog appeals to me more than GWoP. There is less snark and pickiness. I do respect PennMommy because she is a doer not a observer. 14 years ago we lost our baby girl to meningitis. PennMommy came to my house every day in the aftermath for three months to clean & cook & watch my daughter who was three until I was ready to live again. I love the Gosselins! I love Penn Mommy to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-75079926647137874412008-09-18T20:53:00.000-07:002008-09-18T20:53:00.000-07:00It might have been damage control, it is probably ...It might have been damage control, it is probably whatever TLC wants us to see. They want their show to be successful. It's hard to guess if Kate is trying to be a nicer person, or it's an act or editing. I 'm guessing they would realize that some people (like wired posters at another site) are just wild in their opinions and fixed in their beliefs. Because the boys tease by sucking on their toys, they have security issues. Alexis sleeps in the basement and is a fairy tale character living in the dungeon. Kate did not stop working when Maddy showed her a card she had just made for her. No one gives her credit for asking Maddy if she could save it. Because her children did not mind her and Kate had to yell at them to make them stop eating strawberries, she was compared to Joan Crawford beating her daughter screaming “no wire hangers”. <BR/>Kids suck on stuff an boys will sometimes tease their sisters without mercy. Perhaps after Alexis was made to stay in the basement she found she enjoyed it. A lot of posters at GWOP give these children no leeway to just have childhood moments. No one seems to think that there might be days when some of the kids want to play a game of “let's get mom”. No one seems to remember that children that age are almost always testing their limits. They give the children no credit for being themselves or for just being kids. <BR/>Some of the ones screaming how much they care about the children are putting those same children under a microscope and declare everything found to demonstrate that Kate is the mother from hell and that these children have severe emotional issues and everything else they say about them.<BR/>Assuming the worst of any of the shown and EDITED film of the children clearly shows unbalanced thinking. IMO those type of posters are using children to suit their own purpose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-25798365559810028062008-09-18T18:53:00.000-07:002008-09-18T18:53:00.000-07:00SNARK ALERT! SNARK ALERT! WOOP! WOOP! WOOP!Wel...SNARK ALERT! SNARK ALERT! WOOP! WOOP! WOOP!<BR/><BR/>Well, no snark from me. I just checked the Gosselins website. The girls all now have a cute little home page. I'm sure this will be proof of gender inequality in the Gosselin home. There is also "baby" writing on Alexis' page, which will be made fun of. Finally, under her latest devotional page, Kate said that the girls have above average reading skills. Undoubtedly, it'll be an issue that Kate was bragging.<BR/><BR/>It's really sad that I now have to read everything from the perspective of people "over there." I actually thought the girls' pages were cute, and enjoyed the real snapshots of their kids, taken by Jon and Kate. It's nice to see candid moments, like Kate in her PJ's with her daughter. <BR/><BR/>I also want to say two things: One, I think Kate is terrible at reading scripts or being in interviews, so I think she isn't a good actress. Two, I thought that the room that had the sign on it was the twin's study room. Maybe I was wrong, but that's what it appeared to be for me.scarfoot79https://www.blogger.com/profile/01291250114236372321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-2949671416515613142008-09-18T18:43:00.000-07:002008-09-18T18:43:00.000-07:00I agree too....she is not a good spokesperson. She...I agree too....she is not a good spokesperson. She totally fumbles when something is scripted which is why I doubt when others say the show is scripted.EveryoneLovesErinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08430233139773353519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-75624738687283589692008-09-18T18:02:00.000-07:002008-09-18T18:02:00.000-07:00Okay, I've been reading the newer threads and I ho...Okay, I've been reading the newer threads and I honestly can't say anything that I haven't said 10 times over or that someone else hasn't mentioned already. <BR/><BR/><BR/>I think I may be suffering from Gosselin burnout;-)HBIC8uhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07324541993344517032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-83472920666330967972008-09-18T17:42:00.000-07:002008-09-18T17:42:00.000-07:00Doesn't anyone else but me think she is a horrible...<B>Doesn't anyone else but me think she is a horrible spokesperson?</B><BR/><BR/>ITA. That's why when someone brings us that Jon and Kate are "playing along" I have to disagree, she is not an actress. What you get is all her. (the V-tech voice over was worse than Cindy Crawford trying to sing in the Charlie commercial).imoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-68416068955345316872008-09-18T17:38:00.000-07:002008-09-18T17:38:00.000-07:00I'm one of those conspiracy theorists who thinks t...<B>I'm one of those conspiracy theorists who thinks the show created the controversy on purpose; now they are trying to dial it down</B><BR/><BR/>That is definitely possible, but I think at a certain point, Jon and Kate would step and say - this is NOT our life and how we really are. What we hear from them is "the show is our life and our life is the show" and that it is "accurate".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-55360887693326138352008-09-18T14:36:00.000-07:002008-09-18T14:36:00.000-07:00I think my brilliant answer to all of this is..."I...I think my brilliant answer to all of this is..."I don't know'EveryoneLovesErinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08430233139773353519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-52331978171969144472008-09-18T13:37:00.000-07:002008-09-18T13:37:00.000-07:00So does "damage control" refer to action...So does "damage control" refer to actions on the part of J&K or actions on the part of producers/editors? Like MCB, I tend to define damage control as the latter; I'm one of those conspiracy theorists who thinks the show created the controversy on purpose; now they are trying to dial it down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-9154688140669317342008-09-18T13:36:00.000-07:002008-09-18T13:36:00.000-07:00I don't know where to post this, I posted under ha...I don't know where to post this, I posted under haiku earlier but thought I'd try again under this topic. I'm just wondering if anyone on this blog knows the Gosselins? I read a post on PennMommy's blog from Becky who seems to know them and respect them...I think she mentioned this blog so I was hoping to find positive posts on this family (from people that have met them). I'm tired of reading all the snark (that is mostly just opinions) from those who have never even met them.<BR/>About the damage control. I think some of it could possibly be dc but alot of it must be coincidence because they film weeks in advance and sometimes people think that just because the blog world mentions something one week and then the show addresses the same issue the next week it must be because they read GWoP or FB or whatever. It can't happen that fast.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-82991899403597463222008-09-18T13:32:00.000-07:002008-09-18T13:32:00.000-07:00I don't know if I would call the most recent episo...I don't know if I would call the most recent episodes "damage control", but I do think the Gosselin's PR people do pay attention to what is being blogged about them, and are trying to adjust their image.<BR/><BR/>Like others mentioned, we really do not know what is cut from the final episode, and Figure 8 is going to air what people want to see.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com