tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post7817804574170213944..comments2023-05-10T02:47:51.886-07:00Comments on GOSSELINS DO NOT NEED OUR PITY: What Gray Truth Are YOU SeekingUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-68071862924762747992008-09-01T09:50:00.000-07:002008-09-01T09:50:00.000-07:00Ah, the sound of crickets.....thanks for proving m...Ah, the sound of crickets.....thanks for proving my point.EveryoneLovesErinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08430233139773353519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-77719612292629608902008-08-31T10:13:00.000-07:002008-08-31T10:13:00.000-07:00Anonymous, there is not one shred of evidence to s...Anonymous, there is not one shred of evidence to suggest that this "hit and run" happened. Not one bit. In small towns like the Gosselins live in, any "crime" is reported in the local paper. Not even a blip. Kate would have been arrested. I highly doubt that this "I'm a public figure" would have just been left. The press would be ALL OVER that just like they were all over Matt Roloff's DUI. <BR/><BR/>There have been so many other WAY more famous people getting caught doing stupid things and they get arrested just like everyone else. So as I stated earlier, if you can provide me with legitimate proof, other than some speculation at GWoP, then I'll be outraged. Until then....its just another fairy tale created by the crazies.EveryoneLovesErinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08430233139773353519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-67841515010021268942008-08-31T10:08:00.000-07:002008-08-31T10:08:00.000-07:00Where did you read about the hit and run? In the p...Where did you read about the hit and run? In the paper, on the evening news, GWoP, the neighbor that has a vendetta that posted on cafemom but had never posted before that day. Where is a source that can be trusted. Where I grew up things like that were always printed in the local paper.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-63360932655364056562008-08-31T10:01:00.000-07:002008-08-31T10:01:00.000-07:00Mr. Nixon thought he was above the law. That was ...Mr. Nixon thought he was above the law. That was the reference. Is anyone here old enough to remember how arrogant that pres became and how it was a very, very long and hard fall back down to reality. you break the law, whatever it is, hit and run, you own up to it and you pay the piper. No one is above the law. Not the President of the United States or the mother of 8 children who fancies herself a TV star.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-23821431681838870772008-08-30T11:23:00.000-07:002008-08-30T11:23:00.000-07:00Just curious anon, where is the evidence for that?...Just curious anon, where is the evidence for that?<BR/><BR/>Show me and I'll have an opinion.EveryoneLovesErinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08430233139773353519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-73023846114782041302008-08-30T10:16:00.000-07:002008-08-30T10:16:00.000-07:00Anonymous said... "Just curious. What is your take...<B> Anonymous said... <BR/>"Just curious. What is your take on the hit and run by Kate where the police came to her door and she said she didn't stop after hitting another car because she was a "public figure"? Mr. Nixon, are hearing this?" </B><BR/><BR/>Speaking for myself, I have only heard this account posted on GWoP. I give it the weight I give most of the stuff that is recounted there over and over until it becomes a "FACT."<BR/><BR/>If you have an impartial news source that we can look at, I'd be glad to check it out.<BR/><BR/>Just curious - what's with the Richard Nixon reference? That one went over my head. Must need some more coffee!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-89410301071919661882008-08-30T09:44:00.000-07:002008-08-30T09:44:00.000-07:00Just curious. What is your take on the hit and ru...Just curious. What is your take on the hit and run by Kate where the police came to her door and she said she didn't stop after hitting another car because she was a "public figure"? Mr. Nixon, are hearing this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-39889077548915165472008-08-29T20:50:00.000-07:002008-08-29T20:50:00.000-07:00Maybe not interchangeable, but I think it's fair t...<B>Maybe not interchangeable, but I think it's fair to say that each blog has it's own hard-headed opinions regarding the show and aren't open to others who might have a different opinion.. yourself included.</B><BR/><BR/>I think I'm more hard-headed and intractable about GWoP than I am about J&K+8. I mean, I have certain opinions about the show, but I can accept other opinions as perfectly valid. I can accept and understand people not liking Kate. I can't accept or understand people comparing her to Osama bin Laden. There needs to be some middle ground to work from.<BR/><BR/>Even about GWoP, I feel like I've gone to pains to say that I know that not all the people who post there are responsible for the worst stuff that comes out of there. But I won't back down on saying how inappropriate I think the stalking is, and how ugly I think some of the comments that people post there are.<BR/><BR/><B>There are some of us that read both blogs just because it's entertaining to see people get so wound up about something. You say people on this blog don't, but it seems like you're defending this site about allegations more than you are debating.</B><BR/><BR/>I can only speak for myself, but I try not to get "wound up". Really, I do. This is not a mission or an advocacy for me, and while I do get caught up in the debate at times, it's not worth it to let it make me angry. I see how angry some of the GWoPpers are at the Gosselins, and how caught up in the lives of people they don't even know, and I know *I* don't want to be like that. I get that the fight is entertaining. I don't find going to GWoP too entertaining because it's too over-the-top and ugly to me. It kind of depresses me.Guineverehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594898905741204155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-19147715856594725512008-08-29T19:08:00.000-07:002008-08-29T19:08:00.000-07:00Anon 6:25,You do seem like a balanced person. I k...Anon 6:25,<BR/>You do seem like a balanced person. I know I personally appreciate criticism. I guess people get on the defensive when the conversation starts out with:<BR/><BR/><B>I laughed to myself at those over at GWOP after the Jodi video came out. They said that the folks over a GDNOP would scream "Sour grapes", or claim it wasn't her, or say she was forced to say it, whatever, whatever. I laughed, thinking that the people here on GDNOP have brains in their head, and they were certainly be big enough people to acknowledge the video and what it really was. But lo and behold, and come over here and find out the GDNOP people are doing just that. I'm a disapointed </B><BR/><BR/>If you are comfortable accepting Jodi's word for it then that is a decision you've made. Should everyone just accept when someone says "this is true?" If we did that, we'd have a sad, sad country. People are questioning the Gosselins and that is good!!! But there is a difference between questioning and creating a campaign of hate. I question the Gosselins. I don't hate them. I certainly don't equate Kate to Osama Bin Laden or Susan Smith or Andrea Yates. Those people are murderers. Kate Gosselin has a television show that people don't agree with and gets free things. When talking about balance, that seems a little "off balance" to me. <BR/><BR/>I know you're not a fan of either extreme but if you read carefully, there are many moderate people here. When I get "up in arms' is when people come out with the extreme views or make wild accusations. I know that there are people here who are not Jodi fans (I'm one of them, I think what she did lacked integrity, sorry). It's because her sister continues to support that "extreme" site. This wasn't a spontaneous "Oh, I'm going to make a video thing." I believe that this has been in the works for quite some time. I also believe that Jodi is using her hurt and anger to fuel a dangerous fire. <BR/><BR/>Thats my opinion. Even if her version of events is 100% the accurate version of truth, this is not the way to do things. There are classier ways to live your life. For Example, when Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt split up. The media was in a feeding frenzy trying to get Jennifer A. to comment on the relationship between Brad and Angelina. I think Jennifer A. had more of a reason to be pissed off. Her husband left her for another woman. Where was her hate blog? Would you have supported that? Personally, I think she made a classy decision not to comment, despite her hurt.<BR/><BR/>People have used the excuse "Well, Kate is a public figure so Jodi had to go public" but I absolutely disagree. When do you see celebrities getting on the internet and dishing info to the general public? They might do an interview where they give very limited personal information and just talk about their own feelings. Jodi could have done that and I wouldn't fault her. But she went about it this way. Like her sister said "we all have to decide what we can live with." Well, apparently Jodi can live with herself but can her kids live with her actions? How about the Gosselin kids? <BR/><BR/>I know the next response will be "it's all Kate's fault...she x, y, z" but no one held a gun to Jodi's head and made her do this. The hate blogs and talking trash could be a reason for Kate ending the relationship. Could you blame her for that?EveryoneLovesErinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08430233139773353519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-67500726052931822912008-08-29T19:06:00.000-07:002008-08-29T19:06:00.000-07:00anon 6:25pmYou are right in just about everything ...anon 6:25pm<BR/><BR/>You are right in just about everything you said. I guess I should only speak for myself but many of us, myself included, hold hard-headed opinions about issues surrounding the show. I don't really have that many opinions about the show itself other than it is a fluff piece. <BR/><BR/>Again your right in that we have been defending this blog against allegations. Way too much this week especially. It appears that some people feel we talk about GWoP too much. Actually we admit to this, but people just keep wanting to bring it up. Yes we admit that we talk about GWoP a lot. <BR/><BR/>One thing I know for sure that people will not stop talking about GWoP here.<BR/><BR/>The other thing I know for sure is that I will quit defending those allegations because there is nothing to defend. I admit to it and most likely will continue.<BR/><BR/>Yes we will try to discuss other things. Continue to lurk, that is ok with me. Continue to get your entertainment here. I think several weeks back I wrote a post about how this is just a blog. Just entertainment for all of us. Nothing else.<BR/><BR/>And I absolutely agree with you on the last paragraph of your post.Nina Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14176632913586852529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-6410874568310462952008-08-29T18:25:00.000-07:002008-08-29T18:25:00.000-07:00So, no, I don't think you can say that the two blo...<B>So, no, I don't think you can say that the two blogs, or the people who post on them, are interchangeable.</B><BR/><BR/>Maybe not interchangeable, but I think it's fair to say that each blog has it's own hard-headed opinions regarding the show and aren't open to others who might have a different opinion.. yourself included.<BR/><BR/>There are some of us that read both blogs just because it's entertaining to see people get so wound up about something. You say people on this blog don't, but it seems like you're defending this site about allegations more than you are debating.<BR/><BR/>That being said, GWoP isn't interesting to read anymore. It's just become ridiculous and as much as I might not like Kate as a person (from what I've seen on tv) I wouldn't want an entire blog critiquing a snapshot of me and my husband with made up captions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-7929509746178928392008-08-29T17:01:00.000-07:002008-08-29T17:01:00.000-07:00GWOP is as bad as GDNOP and visa versa. I feel com...<B>GWOP is as bad as GDNOP and visa versa. </B><BR/><BR/>I feel compelled to dispute this every time it's said. If GDNNOP was as "bad as" GWoP, I would not be a part of it. I would not want to be a part of it if the majority of people here cleaved to one absolute view, whether it was "J&K are monsters" OR "J&K are perfect". Such black and white thinking does not appeal to me.<BR/><BR/>And I CERTAINLY would not want to participate here if people here were engaging in cyber-stalking and attempting to disrupt strangers' lives. That goes way, way too far IMO. <BR/><BR/>So, no, I don't think you can say that the two blogs, or the people who post on them, are interchangeable.Guineverehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594898905741204155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-51397779377395165652008-08-29T15:47:00.000-07:002008-08-29T15:47:00.000-07:00Nice article Baby Mama and I enjoyed looking at yo...Nice article Baby Mama and I enjoyed looking at your site also.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-53836953575213804372008-08-29T14:23:00.000-07:002008-08-29T14:23:00.000-07:00And here is an interesting post from the Q&A s...And here is an interesting post from the Q&A section of the GwoP blog.....<BR/><BR/>"But being curious to know is not analogous to having the right to know. "<BR/><BR/>Too bad that same courtesy was not afforded to the families involved in this conflict. <BR/><BR/>But then again, if that idea was followed there would be no GwoP blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-16025288241749595542008-08-29T13:59:00.000-07:002008-08-29T13:59:00.000-07:00Anon, I am sorry that you are "done with this" but...Anon, <BR/>I am sorry that you are "done with this" but wasn't it you who initially insulted us? I'm not sure what kind of response you were expecting. <BR/><BR/>I'm sorry that I don't think that Jodi's corners the market on truth. Jodi is a family member who is hurt. I posted many times that I think both parties are at fault. At no time did I ever suggest that Jodi was forced into the video. There is no disputing that the video features Jodi and that what is written on Julie's blog they perceive to be fact. The legal definition of fact is "an actual thing or happening, which must be proved at trial by presentation of evidence and which is evaluated by the finder of fact (a jury in a jury trial, or by the judge if he/she sits without a jury)."<BR/><BR/>If I'm going to "prosecute" Kate, I need more than the testimony of 1 embittered witness. Sorry..you call it stubbornness, I call it thinking.EveryoneLovesErinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08430233139773353519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-35453989664382593392008-08-29T13:56:00.000-07:002008-08-29T13:56:00.000-07:00Anonymous : "but neither board will allow a conver...Anonymous : <BR/><BR/>"but neither board will allow a conversation that can help get to the real truth."<BR/><BR/>I'll engage in a conversation but it will start with the question of .... <BR/><BR/>What happened to the GwoP person who lives "nearby" the Gs to get them going on this journey?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-16973497951833937962008-08-29T13:52:00.000-07:002008-08-29T13:52:00.000-07:00Anonymous: You wrote: Why would you want J&K&#...Anonymous: <BR/><BR/>You wrote: <BR/><BR/>Why would you want J&K's perspective? That is like asking Osama bin Laden about the truth behind 9/11.<BR/><BR/>So now J&K are as bad as a mass murderer? <BR/><BR/>Your analogy does not fly because you are equating these parents (who I do not hold out as parenting role models by the way) as similar in their culpability as a man who masterminded a plot to murder thousands and harm countless others? <BR/><BR/>Do you realize how that sounds? <BR/><BR/>I maintain, that we've only heard Jodi's and Julie's perspective. <BR/><BR/>I do not even suggest that J&K don't bear some responsibility for the family dispute. But I end it there. <BR/><BR/>GwoP may not have started the dispute within the family, but they are at least partly responsible for manufacturing the internet controversy which is in all likelihood exacerbating the conflict in the family. <BR/><BR/>Really ... who is off limits in these GwoP games? <BR/><BR/>It's sick. It isn't about the kids for them. It's a personal vendetta.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-51840393775807337042008-08-29T13:47:00.000-07:002008-08-29T13:47:00.000-07:00Why would you want J&K's perspective? That...<B> Why would you want J&K's perspective? That is like asking Osama bin Laden about the truth behind 9/11. </B><BR/><BR/>I think this comment actually made me throw up in my mouth (yes, I'm exaggerating before you try to throw those words back at me).<BR/><BR/>This is a beautiful demonstration of the mentality that some people have. It's beyond absurd and it's a slap in the face to anyone who has lost someone in 9/11. The tragic loss of thousands of American lives hardly compares to Jodi pouting because she didn't get her way (I wont even go into what "her way" may or may not have been).<BR/><BR/>I'm sorry but that is some twisted stuff and if you can't see that, you have more problems then you realize.EveryoneLovesErinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08430233139773353519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-14691280215783504822008-08-29T13:40:00.000-07:002008-08-29T13:40:00.000-07:00"I laughed, thinking that the people here on GDNOP..."I laughed, thinking that the people here on GDNOP have brains in their head, and they were certainly be big enough people to acknowledge the video and what it really was. But lo and behold, and come over here and find out the GDNOP people are doing just that. I'm a disapointed. There is little pure black and white, but here was an instance where is was snow white, and the folks over here turn it into something grey or even black."<BR/><BR/><BR/>Sorry, this is not a serious conversation. This is someone coming over here to attack and stir things up. You insinuated that we were brainless basically.<BR/>If you want to have a serious conversation, then ask a serious question. Don't point fingers and bring up GWoPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-6730420420458684872008-08-29T13:23:00.000-07:002008-08-29T13:23:00.000-07:00I'm glad that a serious conversation "Never made y...I'm glad that a serious conversation "Never made you laugh so hard". Don't know about secret boards, I'm sure they exist, I'm surely not part of them. You also thought it was pretty humorous that I read both boards for balance. I think this is an alien idea for both GWOP and GDNOP you both post your own opinions, believe they are correct, won't even listen to the other side of the argument, and just keep getting more and more extreme when you haven't converted the world to your warped, one sided way of thinking. GWOP is as bad as GDNOP and visa versa. I'm through with all of you. You are all a bunch of stubborn people. The truth lies someone between what the two boards are spewing, but neither board will allow a conversation that can help get to the real truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-36110173614112133112008-08-29T13:12:00.000-07:002008-08-29T13:12:00.000-07:00Ok the reason I am pushing for where the people on...Ok the reason I am pushing for where the people on GWoP talked about this site is because it doesn't exist. If this was discussed - <BR/><BR/>"I laughed to myself at those over at GWOP after the Jodi video came out. They said that the folks over a GDNOP would scream "Sour grapes", or claim it wasn't her, or say she was forced to say it, whatever, whatever. I laughed, thinking that the people here on GDNOP have brains in their head, and they were certainly be big enough people to acknowledge the video and what it really was. But lo and behold, and come over here and find out the GDNOP people are doing just that. I'm a disapointed. There is little pure black and white, but here was an instance where is was snow white, and the folks over here turn it into something grey or even black."<BR/><BR/>it was done on your private, secret message board and you are one of THOSE GWoPers. I hope the people who frequent GWoP realize you talk about them also. Those that are not registered members.You make fun of everyone. There are no limits. Than you go back to GWoP and try to pretend you are interested in the nonsense that goes on there.You just come here to stir things up. Then comment that all we do is talk about you.<BR/>Correct me if I am wrong please??<BR/><BR/><BR/>I LOVE this part"Being a reader of both GWOP and GDNOP, I constantly try to walk that line and see the truth/untruth as it really is, or what it is not."<BR/><BR/>I never laughed so hard. This was so innocent people reading this would think you are legitimate. Stay home please. Quit playing around. You only make yourself look bad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-5689168711256956402008-08-29T13:11:00.000-07:002008-08-29T13:11:00.000-07:00I'm not sure where it was posted really matters. I...I'm not sure where it was posted really matters. I don't want to stir up even more dirt by posting a link. GDNOP talks about GWOP and GWOP talks about GNOP, is this news to anyone? I'm not a regular poster here or there, mostly a reader.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-85900672142612801232008-08-29T12:43:00.000-07:002008-08-29T12:43:00.000-07:00So anon. You still haven't answered my question. W...So anon. You still haven't answered my question. Where over at GWoP were they talking about this site and what the reaction would be at this site?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-81147979811706256902008-08-29T12:40:00.001-07:002008-08-29T12:40:00.001-07:00Why would you want J&K's perspective? That...Why would you want J&K's perspective? That is like asking Osama bin Laden about the truth behind 9/11.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-875099505545555742.post-25142754968572763742008-08-29T12:40:00.000-07:002008-08-29T12:40:00.000-07:00Why would you want J&K's perspective? That...Why would you want J&K's perspective? That is like asking Osama bin Laden about the truth behind 9/11.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com