Monday, September 29, 2008

NEW EPISODE - Tonight


Sep 29, 9:00 pm
(30 minutes)
Jon & Kate Plus 8 Viewer FAQ


Viewers continue to flood Jon and Kate's inbox with questions about how they make life with eight kids as normal as possible. So they sit down and go through some of the most interesting and entertaining emails and answer their questions.

77 comments:

anya said...

It will be interesting to see how far they go to address some of internet rumors floating around.

I still believe there are some subjects they are better off not discussing (i.e., Jodi), but there are others - such as the alleged chef -- I think they should get right in and tackle.

comesclean said...

What do you think about the financial - college funds, etc?

Fanny said...

comesclean said...
"What do you think about the financial - college funds, etc?"


I know the accounts were set up but how much, if anything is in them is something we may never know the truth about. I'm not sure that I believe there is what could be considered absolute full payment college tuition in each of the 6, or accounts. And we're talking about 14 years from now and college tuition is likely to be much higher than what it is now. That is a lot of money, and they would be smart to keep adding to it, imo.

Anonymous said...

IIRC In July Jon said at the Twins conventions that it was untrue that the tups had college accounts.

Fanny said...

He said college ACCOUNTS? To say they didn't have college FUNDS could imply that there just weren't actual funds in the accounts. I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "I have a college account".

Anonymous said...

He said college ACCOUNTS? To say they didn't have college FUNDS could imply that there just weren't actual funds in the accounts. I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "I have a college account".

Good Lord Franny, put some milk in your coffee.

I was responding to your comment and typed account instead of fund.

Does it make a difference?

Because I typed "account" instead of "fund" does it make it an "untruth"?

Either way, the "etc," in the orginal question, IMO means do you think Jon and Kate will address the financial aspect to the "issues" that surround them? I don't want to to know how much - I just want to hear them say "Yes it's true that ......"

Fanny said...

Um, yes, it does make a difference and I already explained to you why.

And I didn't accuse you of any "untruths"(I used caps because I don't know how to bold) I was just asking a question.


But thanks for the condescending tone. I was starting to miss it today, everyone playing so nice, and all.

nomoredrama said...

Well, look, they acknowledged the freebies. Other than that, I thought the show was pretty uneventful....

bea'sgrandma said...

Lurker here to ask if someone could please recap the episode. I was watching Dancing With the Stars and forgot to change the channel! I don't have a Tivo or DVR. Thank you kindly.

Anonymous said...

When people ask me if I am saving money for college for my kids, I tell them that I have 529 plan. If they don't know what that is (and most of my older relatives don't) I tell them it is a college account, similiar to a savings account. So yes, some people do refer to them as accounts.

I agree it is incredibly nitpicky to argue over funds vs. account.

Road2Madness said...

Want to bet that Kate will be crucified for her nature germs (gas station floor) vs people germs (hotel floor)?

Road2Madness said...

Wow, I meant to say "crucified for her comment regarding the nature germs vs people germs."

MrsRef said...

They should open up a U-Promise account. They put a few cents in every time you purchase certain items or buy on the internet from certain retailers. We never had the money to set up college accounts for our kids when they were small. We are paying for their education's now thru college loans. We do have about $1.38 in our u-promise account.(for the future grandchildren) With a family that big, they would amass a fortune in that account in a very short time.

Anonymous said...

Actually, in PA all the 529 accounts have been converted to U-Promise accounts.

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Nina Bell said...

To the last person who posted:

"Since comments here are moderated with a lighter hand, go for it. "


Not anymore.

If you would like to re-word your post and submit, be my guest.

meaculpa said...

Nina,
I was the one who submitted the last comment.
This is your blog and you have all right to do as you will with it.
I admit my reply was snarky, but since you did read it, I hope you could see where I was going with it.
I am not a GWoPper, I guess you could say I am a hopper, I read all of the sites.
There were a lot of people who faulted "them" for a heavily moderated site, I hope it does not becomes as such here.
In regards to the "chomping at the bit" comment, then is it fair to say - "is this where you (the commenter) want to go?"
Because I still firmly believe that you have no control over what people want or say and for some people - those really are there true colors. IMO

nomoredrama said...

Well, I think Fanny is a good person as a lot of the people who post here (pro and anti). Snark begets snark. It's human nature. Basic laws of communication. I don't fault anyone for the exchange but it happened and I don't necessarily think its fair to say that a person is less than because they disagreed and/or were snarky.

axiom said...

i missed this new episode. i did see the commercial and they address the new house??? did they really? can anyone recap that for me please

Nina Bell said...

meaculpa,

Well your damned it you do and damned if you don't! All that and no paycheck too. LOL

Yes I knew where you were going with it.

Heavily moderated, hopefully not. Snark is ok, but please make it mild towards other posters.

merryway said...

Oh well, no answer on if there is a or not a chef or if it just craft services. I would have liked an answer on the old scholarship question, the ones that were set up for public donation. Other than that, I just liked the clips of the kids. It was boring and I was wondering about Heroes the whole time.

merryway said...

oh, I did like the moments they showed between the two of them. That was sweet. I always have liked that. When Jon was on the 4-wheeler and Beth's house and said he wanted his wife to ride with him and when they went for Kate's tummy tuck, Jon was laughing and said she had to make it through. It takes the sharp edges away. But I just wasn't into the Q&A.
Guin, on the "what I like thread". I had forgotten about Alexis doing that, that was such a cute kid moment.

Guinevere said...

I got what Kate was talking about with the "barefoot in a gas station v. barefoot in a hotel room" thing. I think for me it's the difference between carpet and concrete - carpet just seems germier. Not that I generally walk around gas stations barefoot, but I've been known to go outside and take the garbage out barefoot. I always have at least socks in a hotel room. I still say it's less about actual germs and more about cooties. It's not a reasonable response, but there you have it.

I'll admit to being kind of excited about seeing the Gosselins' new home, whenever they do move.

Holly said...

This episode was generally boring but I adored the segment about Aadens glasses..he's SO cute!!

Does anyone think that by mentioning how much they hate their tattoos now that they were lobbying for free tattoo removal? I know Kate said "I'll be the 90 year old lady at the nursing home with a Winnie The Pooh tattoo on my ankle", but they really poured on how much they HATED their ink, so it made me wonder. YMMV of course.

Delurkerloo said...

I don't think Jon and Kate were into the Q&A either. They must be tired of hearing the same questions/accusations over and over, especially when it comes to things like "freebies." That's a loaded question that has a very simple answer that anyone with the slightest business sense would have already known. Will this put an end to the complaining about J&K getting those freebies? Never. I don't know why they even bother.

Anonymous said...

I think she needs to be more concerned about the germs in the bed (and how many and what kind of people have slept in it) rather than the floor! YUK! lol

Anyway, the show didn't really point out anything new. And, the fact that they get free things in exchange for free advertising is NOTHING NEW to me. But I guess some people will still say they beg for free stuff. lol

Anonymous said...

I don't know why they bother either delurker. Nothing will satisfy the ones who dislike them.

First of all, MILLIONS of people watch the show. And, I think it would be a stretch to say that even .5% of them are non-fans.

Do you really think .5 percent of people/haters make a difference? I don't.

Jon and Kate should NOT even worry about one or two hater blogs. Why feel the need to respond to them? They have millions and millions of fans. Even if 100,000 of them hate them, so what. millions more like them. The odds are in their favor. Which is nice.

Linda said...

In our area, after this new episode there was the re-run of the episode that might have been called something like "Gosselin Play Time" and it was narrated by Mady and Cara.

When J was roller blading and Cara was trying to catch up to him, we heard K say something like "You need to stay with your daughter."

When Jon does things like this it absolutely drives me nuts. It reminded me of something I saw with my friend's husband.

Our family was with them and we were playing kickball. Their dad is very athletic. When ever a kid (7 and under mind you) who would kick the ball this dad would dive to catch it and if he didn't catch it mid-air he'd cannon-ball the ball at them and then shout 'OUT!"

One by one, each 7 year old kid would sulk away having not made any points against this lug of a dad (6 ft. & 200 lbs.). When my friend saw this going on, she exasperatedly called her husband's name.

His response ...

"What? I thought we were playing kickball!"

Sometimes Jon is a great playful and helpful dad, but other times he just doesn't get it. Him skating away at break neck speed while his daughter was desperately trying to catch up with him made me think of that.

So often people give Kate a hard time for being so rigid, but I also think that she has to reel Jon in a lot. I don't know that this is a character fault in him, but rather some signs of immaturity.

Now, I'm completely open to someone else's view of this so have at it.

Anonymous said...

Linda...
I absolutely agree!

Fanny said...

meaculpa said...

"Because I still firmly believe that you have no control over what people want or say and for some people - those really are there true colors. IMO"


I'm sorry but turn around is fair play. I gave what I got. All I really did was point out that I was being asked a question that I'd already answered, that I didn't accuse anyone of anything, and that the tone was not so nice.

The comment that anon was reacting to was not at all meant to be snarky. I think that if PA set up the accounts, presumably empty and awaiting donations, that it matters if Jon said there weren't accounts set up, rather than that there were no actual funds in those accounts. Why is that considered "nitpicky"? Because I'm so obviously pro-gosselin and I questioned someones account of internet gossip?

Even if I was being nitpicky, why is it only acceptable when it is making j+k look bad?

Anyway, thanks to nmd for defending me and to nina bell for not posting what I can only assume was a nasty comment at my expense.

There's no need to post this, I was just a little put off by the reaction and wanted to explain my side.

Thanks

MommyZinger said...

I would have liked them to answer some more serious questions but I am glad they answered the freebies one and how long they plan to continue. Of course, Kate's "as long as its healthy" answer won't satisfy the haters. I know people will be all over the scene when the boys are telling the camera to go away. I found the episode kind of boring yet it went by fast.

I also loved the Aaden's glasses question and answer. He is too adorable.

meaculpa said...

Fanny,

Without reading the original comment, it's hard to determine what your reaction should be.

First of all, I think (because even though I wrote it, I don't remember it word for word) - anyway it said, the way I took the comment was more "chill" versus condescending.

Also, if you see Nina's reaction it was more tongue in cheek and snarky rather than "nasty".

I think it mentioned semantics and how we shouldn't get too caught up in it - lest we let people think we are trying to cover up a lie.

The true colors comment was in reference to your "play nice" comment.

Actually, I think it didn't get published because I originally signed it
"wannabefiona".

anya said...

axiom said...
i missed this new episode. i did see the commercial and they address the new house??? did they really? can anyone recap that for me please


They were asked if they were moving and if they would be staying in the same school district. Their basic answer was "yes", they were moving and they would not be in the same school district (hmm, I don't think the same state either, but that wasn't addressed). Kate said they were outgrowing their house and listed all the reasons they need more space. There was no timeline given as to when they are moving - Kate said "stayed tuned."

I don't think any other details were given. If I missed anything "big", will others chime in???

meaculpa said...

I would have liked them to answer some more serious questions but I am glad they answered the freebies one and how long they plan to continue. Of course, Kate's "as long as its healthy" answer won't satisfy the haters. I know people will be all over the scene when the boys are telling the camera to go away. I found the episode kind of boring yet it went by fast.

I don't particularly "like" Jon and Kate, but yes "haters" won't be satisfied.

But for the fans - let me pose the same question - were you "satisfied" by the caliber of questions and the answers to some of the "heavier" questions?

Not that Jon and Kate owe anyone an explanation, but it would be nice if they could put some of the rumours to rest - especially if the "truth" (I am putting this in quotes because of the discussion regarding this word) is easily explainable.

Earlier in the thread it could easily be said like "yes it's true" "no, it's not true" - whether or not people believe them should not be a concern - just address the issue.

IMO, they "owe" the fans (especially the ones that defend them) something.

I want to touch on the tatoo thing - I don't have a tatoo, but I was kind of offended that they explained tatoos as some kind of bad thing. Also (taken from another board), it was kind of insulting, that Jon said "they represent things, I don't stand for anymore" - well hello one of the tatoos is a Korean flag.

So what does that mean?


Just my thoughts....

Fanny said...

meaculpa said...
Fanny,

Without reading the original comment, it's hard to determine what your reaction should be.

NMD obviously felt the need to defend me, so one could infer without much more information that the comment was "snarky" or "nasty" (or whatever I could call it that would make you feel better.)


"Also, if you see Nina's reaction it was more tongue in cheek and snarky rather than "nasty"."


The comment was not directed at Nina, so her response may have been different than mine.


"I think it mentioned semantics and how we shouldn't get too caught up in it - lest we let people think we are trying to cover up a lie."

As far as I can tell, no one was pushing anything as fact, at least I didn't see it that way, so I'm afraid I've missed your point.


"The true colors comment was in reference to your "play nice" comment."


So what, I've shown my "true self" because I replied with snark to snark? Maybe on a different day I'd have let that go, but I'm
pms-ing today so I'm a little less likely to take any crap---even, apparently, inconsequental internet crap. I'm not proud of it, but that's the way it is.


"Actually, I think it didn't get published because I originally signed it
"wannabefiona"."


I'm not even gonna touch that one.

meaculpa said...

So what, I've shown my "true self" because I replied with snark to snark? Maybe on a different day I'd have let that go, but I'm
pms-ing today so I'm a little less likely to take any crap---even, apparently, inconsequental internet crap. I'm not proud of it, but that's the way it is.


No, not at all, it wasn't addressing that at all, like I said, without seeing the comment in its original form, it cannot be accurately commented on. Even if it was posted, tone can be interpretted in different ways.

Also, if you don't mind me saying, if you are saying you understand "if that's the way it is"
- then what difference is it IF it was indeed nasty? I just know since I was the one that wrote it - how it was intended.

cali-mom said...

I am a huge fan of the show, but after reading all the diff. blogs on the net, I too was hoping they were going to be answering those questions that are going around. I'm glad they did address the "freebies" and the moving questions.
IMO the reason Jon may have said that his tattoos represent his past was because he is now living a Christian life, and the Bible tells us not to mark our bodies, but I could be wrong.
All in all it was an "ok" show. I'm looking forward to next weeks episode.

axiom said...

thanks anya!

anya said...

"I want to touch on the tatoo thing - I don't have a tatoo, but I was kind of offended that they explained tatoos as some kind of bad thing. Also (taken from another board), it was kind of insulting, that Jon said "they represent things, I don't stand for anymore" - well hello one of the tatoos is a Korean flag.

So what does that mean?"


I missed Jon's comment that they represent things he doesn't stand for anymore, but if I had to guess, he probably got the tattoos before he met Kate and became more religious. Perhaps others who have more knowledge can weigh in, but my understanding is the Gosselins belong to a pretty "conservative" strain of Christianity. I could see how the yin-yang symbol might not be in agreement with his current beliefs. The Korean flag, I would think would be less so an issue....

As for Kate, I think she probably just views the tattoos as a youthful mistake. As a mom in her 30's, they probably just feel less than mature and dignified to her. I do see her point about being a 90-year-old in the nursing home with a Winnie-the-Pooh tattoo!

BEE said...

Personally I liked this episode. Even though some of the questions they answered seemed a little "boring" as opposed to some juicier questions they could of answered, I found their answers to be sincere and real.

I agree with some points that PP have touched on. In my opinion Jon and Kate shouldn't or don't need to address any of the controversy that is floating around in cyberspace. The number of "haters" is so insignificant to the number of people that truly enjoy watching them and support them.

I know that the Gosselins have a very public life and have choosen to do so. However, I find no need to know personal information such as what "really" happened with Jodi or how much if any funds/accounts exist for the kids college. Just because they are on TV does not mean that they need to give out every detail of their lives.

Fanny said...

meaculpa said...

Also, if you don't mind me saying, if you are saying you understand "if that's the way it is"
- then what difference is it IF it was indeed nasty? I just know since I was the one that wrote it - how it was intended.



I feel like you should have ended that comment with "whatcha gonna do about it?"



You are entitled to your opinion, as I am entitled to my opinion on your opinion.

I have had people get defensive because of a comment I made that I never meant to be offensive. Sometimes I can look back on those comments and immediately understand why, while other times I can read it over and over and STILL not understand what the big deal is. It happens. We will all respond to comments based on the way we take them, not necessarily the way the were intended.

It is what it is.

And for the record, Nina asked me before she posted that comment. The point of saying it didn't need to be posted wasn't that I wouldn't stand behind it, or that I couldn't take the heat, I just didn't want her to think I'd be upset if she didn't post it if she felt it was inappropriate.

merryway said...

I don't think Jon was saying anything against the Korean Flag, just tattoos in general. He's often shown that he's proud of his heritage. A lot of people who have tattoos regret having them put on.
In the preview for the camera shoot, Maddy is crying. We have seen so much of this with her. I don't know they always show this. Either it can't be edited out, or it has to be put in because of what they are wanting to show, or they like using it. I don't think her behavior can be blamed on the show or her parents. While parents are responsible for their children's behavior, they don't fit into molds. It takes a long time with some children. Maddy repeatedly being so upset doesn't need to be shown to the entire world. IMO that should be reason enough to stop the show now.
I'd be interested in knowing the demographics for their viewing audience. They are losing my interest with all the things they are doing. I'd find it more interesting just watching the kids play a half hour each week. It's gone from watching the family to watching them be celebrities. I have never been interested in any of the celebrity family reality shows . I watched the Osbournes a few times. But in any of the others, I lost interest after 10 minutes.


sorry if I sent this twice. I got a conflict error the first time that told me to hit the back button and then it showed me the normal window with it being sent. I've never seen that error before.

Baffled said...

I was really astounded that they couldn't agree whether Aaden was near sighted or far sighted -- and just what either meant!

Kate once said that she thinks that Aaden did not know what a spoon was before he got his glasses. But last night she made sure to say that he had a very slight correction in his glasses. She is so concerned that one of her children is not perfect.

If Aaden was standing very close to the tv, he is near-sighted. I actually don't think that many small children are far-sighted.

Ruth said...

My six year old is farsighted, as a consequence of having strabismus (one of his eyes is slightly crossed). It is easily corrected by glasses, and he could grow out of it, as his eye is corrected.

If Aaden was standing close to the tv because he could not see the picture, he probably is far sighted. "Nearsighted" and "Farsighted" actually mean the opposite from what you expect ... people who are nearsighted have trouble seeing things at a distance, and those who are farsighted have trouble focusing on things that are close up.

erin said...

I have to say, I am a very well educated woman but near sighted/far sighted throws me off also. I don't know why, it has always confused me even though it is pretty self explanatory when you look at it. That being said, I didn't think that their saying it was a slight prescription had anything to do with him not being perfect. I think it was more that he doesn't have very bad eyesight at this point. I think people sometimes dig deeper than is needed. The question was "Is his prescription strong?" and they said "No, it is very slight."

ruth said...

I agree, the definitions of "nearsighted" and "farsighted" are counterintuitive.

anya said...

The question was "Is his prescription strong?" and they said "No, it is very slight."

Based on what I have seen of his lenses, the correction does not appear to really strong. And we have seen him wander around without them, so we know he can make his way around, if need be.

The story K told about saying every morning, "Good Morning, Aaden, please put on your glasses." was cute....

Anonymous said...

I'm near-sighted and can't ever keep the two straight. And as someone who needed glasses at a very early age, Aaden might not be able to tell the difference between having them on having them off until he's really trying to see something. They made me start wearing mine all the time when I was 8 and was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes. But up until then, I hardly ever wore them because I could still see pretty well without them.

While this episode seemed sort of boring I'm glad they finally answered some of the questions that people had, instead of everyone just assuming the answer. The "freebie" thing made sense, to a point. And I'm sorry, but I'm probably the only one that can agree with Kate that people germs are different from nature germs.

anya said...

Sorry, friends, I not going to let you commandeer the word "truthiness". I have already had more internet 'fights' about the word "truth" in the last 6 weeks than I have had in my whole life....

Truthiness must remain a word that all Americans - on both sides of the Gosselin spectrum - can use with pride.

I am drawing a line in the sand!

anya said...

Anonymous said 7:53 p.m....
And I'm sorry, but I'm probably the only one that can agree with Kate that people germs are different from nature germs.

I agree with you! And it sounds like we might have a few more germophobes (based on the comments above) who might join our club!

erin said...

I also agree about the germs. I am squicked out by hotel rooms to the point of making people change hotels if I think the room is too dirty. I have had some bad hotel experiences. I probably wouldn't even flinch about standing on the ground of a gas station since I have in parking lots before. I've also walked barefoot down the main street of my town when my shoes started to hurt. This is one place I can totally agree with Kate.

erin said...

anya said: "Sorry, friends, I not going to let you commandeer the word "truthiness". I have already had more internet 'fights' about the word "truth" in the last 6 weeks than I have had in my whole life....

Truthiness must remain a word that all Americans - on both sides of the Gosselin spectrum - can use with pride.

I am drawing a line in the sand!"

I made a comment on this over there, about helping 3F find her truthiness (since she seems to have lost it) and it was deleted.

Linda said...

I read 3fs commentary about the episode. She is a really humorous writer. But did you catch this line?

===========================

And, as he and most other boys mature, he will eventually be walking around with hairy palms.

===========================

I'm not a prude and I've got boys, but the last thing that I think about with 4 year old boys is that one day they will be .... er uh you know.

It is these kinds of comments coupled with their obsession with the shower scenes and the potty shots that makes me think ... WTH?

Guinevere said...

Ew. I'll say it again, some peoples' minds are in the gutter. Why would you even think that way about a 4-year-old?

Linda said...

As they say . . .

"I think I just threw up in my mouth a little."

copyed said...

And, as he and most other boys mature, he will eventually be walking around with hairy palms.

I read the entire passage and this particular line was presented along with other "myths".

In response the standing too close to the TV comment.

This is the whole passage

Honestly, the whole bit about the oxygen and premies is probably the truth. However, if Aaden's eyesight is damaged from standing too close to the television then I have to believe that when he crosses his eyes they will stick that way. And, as he and most other boys mature, he will eventually be walking around with hairy palms. The truth is that the boy is probably near sighted, meaning he can't see things at a distance, which is why he needs to stand near the television. It also means he probably needs a new prescription. I won't even go into the hours the child spends standing under the studio lights that have been installed in his home.

Guinevere said...

Context, alas, does not make the comment any more relevant or tasteful. I still wonder why anyone's mind would go there.

copyed said...

From a literary aspect, the piece was meant to be humorous and to go from the sublime to the ridiculous is not a far stretch. IMO.

Why was it that your mind went there?

Guinevere said...

Yeah, I guess it's my fault that I didn't consider masturbation jokes about 4-year-old boys "from a literary aspect."

Yuck.

copyed said...

Yeah, I guess it's my fault that I didn't consider masturbation jokes about 4-year-old boys "from a literary aspect."

Yuck.


From someone who says she doesn't like "judgemental" posts, that doesn't stop you from doing the same. IMO.

Before you can tell me "that's too bad. I have my opinion, you have yours." Here's my thought -

This was a parody. One line from what it seemed, an endless post.

Is there no one here that has a sense of humor?

Anonymous said...

copyed,


It appears to me that your are having a conversation with two people here. You said "Is there no one here that has a sense of humor?"

Maybe the rest of us are just not that interested in this discussion.

Doesn't mean that you have a monopoly on humor.

Guinevere said...

You must be confusing me with someone else. I dislike extreme judgmentalness, but I'm okay with the garden-variety kind. I don't like obsessive hatred of strangers, ridiculous hyperbole, stalking, etc. - but I at least expect people to be somewhat judgmental. That's human nature.

As for "sense of humor", it seems to me that "your people" (so to speak) have pretty vulgar senses of humor for folks who clutch their pearls over topless toddlers.

Anonymous said...

Initially two other people were discussing the offending remark.

Anonymous said...

I dislike extreme judgmentalness

Or the kind that you state come form "perfect" people that make you feel bad.

You must be confusing me with someone else.

No that would be you.

Maybe, it's not the posts, but how you perceive them.

Guinevere said...

anon, I say a lot here, so I could be forgetting something, but I don't recall saying that "perfect" people make me feel bad. I don't think anyone's perfect, and people who act like they are irritate me; they don't make me feel inferior.

As for your second comment, I don't think I understand - who is commenting and who is perceiving in your scenario? If you're going back to the "hairy palms" issue (and damn, I'm already sick of talking about it), I think it's a stretch to say that those who found the comment offensive are the ones with dirty minds. It was a pretty straightforward comment and doesn't really leave much room for interpretation, IMO.

comesclean said...

When the "other" site was down, there was less of "reporting" what was going on over "there".

I have always maintained that there are enough valid points and interesting topics that stand alone "here".

So, in an effort to "play nice" - is it at all possible to just stay on the topic at hand?

Yes, the few comments above are about the "FAQ" but more about how someone elsewhere "perceived" it.

Is it too much to ask to keep comments "in house"?

anya said...

Parodying 4-year-olds *and* child advocacy. It's all in the day's work of a certain blog.

Thank God they are back up and running so they can continue to combine these two "pursuits" full steam ahead...

anya said...

comesclean said...
When the "other" site was down, there was less of "reporting" what was going on over "there".

I have always maintained that there are enough valid points and interesting topics that stand alone "here".

So, in an effort to "play nice" - is it at all possible to just stay on the topic at hand?

Yes, the few comments above are about the "FAQ" but more about how someone elsewhere "perceived" it.

Is it too much to ask to keep comments "in house"?


By all means, please discuss the EPISODE. I am happy to hear your thoughts, so please post them. The only post I have seen from you on this thread (the episode thread) had to do with college funds - a topic that many of us are bored to tears with and wasn't (to my knowledge) discussed on the FAQ episode.

comesclean said...

I still believe there are some subjects they are better off not discussing (i.e., Jodi), but there are others - such as the alleged chef -- I think they should get right in and tackle.

My response

What do you think about the financial - college funds, etc?

What I was questioning - if you (or anyone else that cared to reply) thought it was worth discussing or if it was one of those things they are better off not.

By all means have discussion amongst the posters here, but is it worth discussing what goes on elsewhere? That is my point.


You don't agree with them. Point taken. GWOP is not about child advocacy - enough already.

anya said...

Ok, Comesclean, I understand your initial post better now. Sorry, if I misinterpreted.

That said, we have been over this numerous times, GWoP is going to come up. It just is. There are a lot of people who have strong opinions on them and this is one of the few places to share them.

Different posters have different interests, but from what I have seen, many posters will chime in on a GWoP topic, but they will switch gears and talk about the latest episode or even an o.t. topic. The variety keeps it interesting (at least for me).

If you don't like the GWoP posts, I would skip them, but I would also offer Nina suggestions for features, etc. that interest you.

comesclean said...

It is my wish for this site to stay "legitimate", for it not to lose its credibility. IMO when we overtalk GWOP, call them names, it may appear we are no better than them.

Like I said, there are enough regular posters, who offer thought provoking comments - enough to sustain this blog.

To quote the great Don Cornelius

"Great minds talk about ideas.
Average minds talk about events and small minds talk about people."

I don't if he came up with that quote but I know growing up, he ended every great episode of Soul Train with it.

Linda said...

copyed said...

From a literary aspect, the piece was meant to be humorous and to go from the sublime to the ridiculous is not a far stretch. IMO.

Why was it that your mind went there?
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I was the one who noticed the comment on the episode recap at GwoP. Several posters here had asked for a recap. I know that GwoP usually does that kind of thing so I went to their blog.

Lo and behold ... the hairy palms comment.

I literally googled the term and also looked it up in urban dictionary.

This was not Guin's observation -- it was mine.

That being said, I still find it perplexing that this would even be considered in a discussion about 4 year old boys.

bleck.

As far as discussing what happens at the other blog, I have to admit that this is part of why I come to this blog . . . because I can discuss those things here.

I did say that I thought that 3 farmers was a humorous writer, but I do think that she crossed the line with that comment.

Anonymous said...

As far as discussing what happens at the other blog, I have to admit that this is part of why I come to this blog . . . because I can discuss those things here.

Have your comments been blocked over there? Just curious.

Linda said...

I would say that almost 99% of my comments have been blocked.

aap said...

Ok, I will say that when I watch Jon and Kate I am usually doing something else at the same time, so I could totally be off the wall on this. However, this episode to me felt like J&K just did a big Q&A show and they split it in 2 - 1 shown a couple of weeks ago and this one.

I was disappointed that Kate wasn't more forth coming in regards to the freebies that they receive. I think she should have mentioned that a lot of places they go - the days out, zoo, etc. are free as well. I think they made a point to mention just the trips to make the show seem more real - same thing with coming up for the ideas of where to go with the kids. Given Kate's adversion to markers, I can't see her volunteering to go to the Crayola Factory.

As for the barefeet at the gas station vs. the hotel, I don't buy her nature vs. people germ theory. (I'm not saying she doesn't have a right to her opinion, just that I think her opinion is wrong.) There's a reason you can't build a house on the site of an old gas station, Kate.

Overall I think they could have chose to answer some more of the "harder" questions.

twinmom said...

I watched the entire episode this morning (without commercials..love TIVO and am grateful to have it!). I was fine with it. Then again, I'm not one of the viewers who needs to know every detail and nose around in their financial business. I thought they were honest about their trips. I enjoyed the clips of the kids and I had also recorded the show afterward which was something about what was left on the cutting room floor. Some of that stuff was cute and a nice light way to end my interest in that show until next week. Cute, cute, cute kids.

Anonymous said...

About Jon skating...It is obvious on this show that all of the things that Jon enjoys have been put on hold since he married Kate. I guess they never talked about this before they got married. But he loves to dance and she doesn't dance at all. He loves to swim, and she doesn't. He loves to ski and skate, and she doesn't know how.
So, when he gets the rare opportunity to go down a ski slope or skate for awhile -- he does it with gusto! I see no need for her to "reel him in" for that. He is more well-rounded and used to social situations.