Sunday, March 1, 2009

New Episode - Bye Old House

The Gosselins have settled in their new home, but they head back to the old house to tie up some loose ends. As the family visits the old house for the last time, will they find that absence makes the heart grow fonder?

67 comments:

merryway said...

I've really liked the last few shows, I think this one is going to be sentimental. I don't know how many shows are left in this season. But, I'm looking forward to seeing if there are any changes in next season w/J&K as producers. I wonder if they're going to have any say-so in the editing. It would be nice if they did one last season their way showing their faith and resolutions to conflict and then end it. I think one more season is pushing it, but it will secure J&K as a spokespeople.

marci said...

Yes, I agree this episode will probably be a sentimental walk down memory lane at the old house. I know it may be more of a "filler" show, but the old house is what most viewers remember of the show, so I can see a few "Oh, remember when the kids were THAT small?" moments.

Merryway,

I actually have a hard time telling where one season ends and another begins...at least until it's posted on the TLC website. I know Jon said they're doing Season 5, but will in start in May/June like Season 4 did?

It's hard to say when the show, or Season 5, will end. I think it's natural for them to get one more summer season of shows in, since they do so much with the kids out of school. The winter months are definately more of them around the house, which is nice. But I'm thinking the tups starting full-time school next fall would be a natural end, or a severe dial-back for filming new episodes if Season 5 is to go through next spring.

I'm interested to see what they choose to do too, as producers as well as how the show progresses.

CincyMom said...

Marci--you mentioned full-time school next fall. I think many think it is a "given," but the Gosselins could do another year of pre-school (full or half-day, whatever options the school offers, and it might not be five days a week). I just think this option gets overlooked sometimes and since the babies were early, I'm curious to see what they do.

There is a whole debate people probably know about "holding back" summer birthdays for zillions of reasons, and often it is boys.

My son is a July bday but we sent him to kindergarten on schedule because there weren't any social/ learning issues brought up by his teachers. But my sis-in-law sent her son (same age) a year later so he would be "taller" (I completely disagree to to each his own.).

Anyway--anyone else wonder if the kids will be in kindergarten? Also, is it mandatory all-day in PA? Here in Ohio, we have a choice, if offered. If I sent my daughter to all-day, she would have to be on a waiting list just to get in AND I would have to pay $2,100! And this is public school!

Needless to say, she is p.m. kindergarten! Plus I enjoy the extra time with her.....

Interested in hearing some thoughts on this.

marci said...

CincyMom,

That's interesting. I hadn't ever heard of half-day Kindergarten. It's full-time, mandatory where I live (otherwise it's just called pre-school) and my son was a summer baby who just made the cut off, and so will always be one of the youngest in his class.

He also had no problems starting K-garten at barely 5. The Gosselin tups will actually be several months older than my child was when he started, so that might make up for any lag because of being preemies.

I have no idea what choices the Gosselins might make about when to put the kids in full-time Kindergarten. I imagine that's something they will be discussing as next fall approaches??? It's possible as premeeies they might want to give them a little more time to mature if they have the option.

We can only wait an see. :)

Barbbe said...

I also am having a hard time distinguishing seasons. But I think when the original crew left and J& K hired a PR firm that the season with the new crew/PR firm was awful and still is. Snippits of the kids and just more of J&K which sometimes is not flattering. They need to get back to the original premise of the show twins and tups and dealing w/everyday life interacting with them. Regarding kindergarten... my son was a late birthday and I was advised to hold him back a year, at the time I was crushed, but that extra year helped him immensely. He went into a great class and I remember his kindergarten teacher asking me how I was now thinking holding him back and I said great and she told me that the class he would have originally entered was a hard class to teach and her words exactly were he would have been eaten alive by that class... since he would have been younger.
I want the tups to go f-t to kindergarten if the episodes keep going like this season.

MonicaW42 said...

Here in AZ we have half day Kindergarten as well. They are some schools that are even going to cut back to 4 day school days due to the economy. Sad.
I hope this will not be a filler show and that they will have a real memorable walk through the house. I imagine there are alot of good memories for them in that house.

marci said...

CincyMom and Monica,

It just occured to me the whole discussion about half-day or full-day Kindergarten might be moot if the Gosselins are sending their kids to private school, which I think will probably be the case.

At that point, it might simply be whether they feel the tups are developmentally ready for Kindergarten by next fall or if they need another year of pre-school.

SamanthaNC said...

I think 1/2 day kindergarten is a wonderful idea, our daughter is just drained by 2:30. Its a long day for a 5 year old. She is a summer birthday also and while I briefly considered waiting to start her, she is very mature and I felt waiting a year would create an uneccessary gap between her and her classmates. I'm glad that we started when we did.

Some of the tups seem young for their age, though they have "grown up" a lot this year. I would imagine they will start in the fall?

marci said...

Sam,

*I* don't see any reason the tups shouldn't be fine to start K in the fall. But, then again, we're not privy to everything, so you never know.

They're all bright, articulate kids. And I think in a group of same-age siblings it's possible that even if a few are "behind" the others, they get the advantage of having their own built-in coaches and also maybe wanting to try harder to be like their siblings.

So unless there are some unseen deal breakers as far as their educational development, I imagine the Gosselin tups will progress on a *regular* school schedule.

Susan said...

In PA kindergarten is not mandatory but all districts have it. Some offer half day some whole day (such as Phila.) and some offer a combination of both.Some parents still opt for private school kindergarten especially if both parents work.
I know many parents who hold summer babies back so the are more developmentally ready.
My guess is the tups will go to private school the same as the twins.

MonicaW42 said...

Marci,

I think your right about them being in private school so there are different rules for that. I remembered when my son went to kindergarten it was almost a full day. He was in Catholic school at that time and did not like it. He then went to public school thereafter and loved school. Go figure.

Kate had to have a bigger fridge for all the school projects she will need to hang up. :)

Anya said...

MonicaW42 said...Kate had to have a bigger fridge for all the school projects she will need to hang up. :)

That made me laugh, but there is some truth in it. Can you imagine the amount of "stuff" the sextuplets will bring home? And how much of it do you keep? I always feel guilty not keeping every project of my daughter's, but if I did we would living among boxes and boxes of paper. I think you have to pick and choose the ones that you really need to keep. This is where having a bigger home really will serve them well.

Anya said...

Cincy Mom said...Anyway--anyone else wonder if the kids will be in kindergarten? Also, is it mandatory all-day in PA? Here in Ohio, we have a choice, if offered. If I sent my daughter to all-day, she would have to be on a waiting list just to get in AND I would have to pay $2,100! And this is public school!

Wow, this really surprised me. Charging for public school?

My daughter has a September birthday and we held her to the following year. She had some growing up to do and I have not regretted the decision. She did end up going to a full-day kindergarten, but it was a Catholic school. In regular California public schools, I believe the standard is still 1/2 day.

I agree with Samantha, I think half-day for kindergarten is preferable.

Liza Beth said...

Ya'll are gonna have to fill me in on how this episode goes-- its the finale of The Bachelor so I'm doing a girls night out to watch that :). I am glad they are doing more of the filler type shows-- its amazing to me how so many people who do not like the show get frustrated or angry when Jon and Kate are given free trips and amazing opportunities, then once the shows are of regular life and things like moving or saying goodbye to an old house suddenly its boring and all damage control. Jon and Kate just can't win, can they?!

marci said...

I've never seen anyone mention this when it comes to raising 8 kids who are roughly the same age....but has anyone considered the amount of school work these kids are going to have???

Can you imagine orchestrating the study time for 8 kids at once? Getting 8 sets of homework done, checked, and in their backpacks every night? How about quizing for different classes once they're in middle school and taking different subjects than their siblings? How about SCIENCE FAIR PROJECTS????

Also, try adding after-school activities for eight on top of homework.

My head hurts just thinking about it....

MonicaW42 said...

Anya,
You are right about the huge amount of school stuff for that many children. I still have stuff from my son's time in school. I still have all of his ceramic things he made and his "better" art projects. In fact, a few years ago my Mom went through some things and still had things from my childhood.

I have heard of schools charging for school now. Public school that is. I wonder if Kate will feel lonely during the day when they are all at school full time? I am sure it would feel empty when you are used to a full house and noise all the time. For me it would be: Calgon take me away!!!

Anya said...

Merryway said...It would be nice if they did one last season their way showing their faith and resolutions to conflict and then end it. I think one more season is pushing it, but it will secure J&K as a spokespeople.

Marci said...But I'm thinking the tups starting full-time school next fall would be a natural end, or a severe dial-back for filming new episodes if Season 5 is to go through next spring.

It's funny how the other side likes to insinuate us sheeple will be devastated when the show ends. Hardly. I think the majority of us have enjoyed the show (despite quibbles here and there) and want the best for the family. That very well may be ending the show in the near future.

I just don't think a small band of self-satisfied bloggers with no relationship to the Gosselins' should call the shots.

Anya said...

Liza Beth said...Ya'll are gonna have to fill me in on how this episode goes-- its the finale of The Bachelor so I'm doing a girls night out to watch that :).

Darn, I always enjoy reading your recap before I watch the show. Somebody else (Merryway, Marci, etc.) on ET will need to fill us in! Enjoy your girls night out. Who are we rooting for on The Bachelor? I haven't followed closely this season.


I am glad they are doing more of the filler type shows-- its amazing to me how so many people who do not like the show get frustrated or angry when Jon and Kate are given free trips and amazing opportunities, then once the shows are of regular life and things like moving or saying goodbye to an old house suddenly its boring and all damage control. Jon and Kate just can't win, can they?!

That would be an affirmative, Liza Beth. Or, rather, they can't win with certain people.

marci said...

Anya said...I just don't think a small band of self-satisfied bloggers with no relationship to the Gosselins' should call the shots.

Amen!

Liza Beth said...

Actually as far as The Bachelor goes he already got rid of the girl I was rooting for (Jillian) but from the looks of it and everything I have seen online it looks like this Most Dramatic Rose Ceremony Ever may *actually be* really dramatic... we shall see!

I agree as well about how different the show is with Jon and Kate as producers. There are certain changes we noticed and then saw mentioned (i.e. Mady and Cara not being shown as often, no more cameras during bath time, etc) so I think that will continue. I find it fascinating how in the natural course of time certain things that are normal for the rest of America are seen as either damage control, fake, or completely inappropriate when done by Jon and Kate. If people want to watch a regular family in its daily life, which is what many have said is the reason they were drawn to the show, then why is it such a huge issue to see Kate letting her kids play outside or going as a family to visit puppies (which you then get permission to take home that day unexpectedly)? I guess I made the erroneous conclusion that the content of the shows was something that at times was an organic (heh) part of their life, while there are other times that we see things which were prearranged (like the Hawaii episodes or St. Judes). At least from my perspective I prefer the regular shows but have no problem with the trips either-- its just interesting that having some approximation of normalcy causes an uproar similar to having a first class plane trip to Hawaii with luaus and wedding renewals and pedicures...

Eileen said...

Let's face it, all shows eventually end after a good run, and, Anya, I agree, I don't think anybody should be calling the shots. And the biggest thing for TLC I'm sure is the ratings anyway. If people continue to tune in, I don't think the network cares if it's for love or hate. I don't think they care how many negative stories are written or what rumors are floating out in the computer world.
About Kindergarten, my kids went to half-day and I really did like that. Later I was a teacher's aide in a Kindergarten classroom that was full day, the same amount of schoolwork was covered only now there was more play time, and rest time, and more time for crafts.
We send my grandson to Catholic school and he goes to Nursery three half-days, next year Pre-K will be five full days! I don't like that at all, I think it is too much for little ones, and I know he's going to give me a hard time, it's like pulling teeth just to make him go these few afternoons each week. Today he was so happy to get a snow day!

Eileen said...

Oh, Liza Beth, I forgot about The Bachelor, thanks for reminding me it's on tonight!

merryway said...

Anya & MonicaW42, I still have some of the fridge stuff from my boys. I kept so much and periodically sorted it out. At the end, it's 2 big boxes. Some of my fav stuff is the the things they made or gave me that are around the house. All of it's so precious, but there's just not enough room.


Half day kindergarten is a pain to mom's who work outside the home, the logistics are usually impossible. For me, it was easiest just to keep paying the daycare who had kindergarten as part of their program. This last one is prob going to be homeschooled. Full day is hard on some of the kids who have been home, it's a big change and some just aren't ready to be away yet.

Liza beth, I also like the filler shows. Some of the shows have bored me, just like other shows. But, if I found it so horrid, I just wouldn't watch. All they're going to do is rip it apart like wild wolves.

Anya, Oh the shock of a show ending, that has never happened before..how will I deal with it??? :) I will miss blogging about it when it's all over. All of this has been really fun and enjoyable. I think it's funniest when we're accused of wanting to emulate Kate or fawn all over her.


Eileen said...
Let's face it, all shows eventually end after a good run, and, Anya, I agree, I don't think anybody should be calling the shots. And the biggest thing for TLC I'm sure is the ratings anyway. If people continue to tune in, I don't think the network cares if it's for love or hate. I don't think they care how many negative stories are written or what rumors are floating out in the computer world.



ITA, it's all about $s and nothing else. I'm glad to see J&K on top. This story could have gone so many different ways and it's nice that's it's going so well for them.

marci said...

And...for all my fellow sheeple...enjoy. :)

MonicaW42 said...

Merryway,

It's a Catch 22 for half day Kindergarten. I agree it is hard on mom's who work outside the home and then need to make other arrangements. I know a couple of years ago that almost every woman in my neighborhood had outside jobs and had to have arrangements for their children (myself included) and now where we live I have noticed alot of stay at home moms. I have found alot of moms are now working out of their homes. I know its kinda OT but it seems like times are changing again. Especially with jobs being scarce.
And really OT but does anyone remember the good old days where school wasn't so PC and they had actual Christmas programs and parties, etc and you could send "homemade" cupcakes and stuff to school? Yeah, I'm old!!

CincyMom said...

Lizabeth, there are on-line spoilers about tonight's Bachelor!
You should do a separate thread tomorrow and give your feedback!

Liza Beth said...

Cincymom, I have read those spoilers-- feel free to email me with your thoughts since I have my own ideas of how things went down!! Its definitely been a great season-- I am not usually into The Bachelor but seeing Jason with his son, Ty, made me really want to catch the show this time :).

Anyway, back to the regularly scheduled Gosselin discussion!

SamanthaNC said...

I'm sure it would be hard with 1/2 day kinderarten if you work outside the home, I'm lucky enough to work form my home office, or even the couch (thanks to whoever came up with the laptop) although I definitly get more done at my desk. Kindergarten was such a huge change- for 2 months I felt like my child disappeared, she became very moody and often sullen, she cried at the least little thing, but after the irst couple months our happy-go-lucky child reappeared. I cant imagine making that adjustment with 6 at once!

JerseyGirl said...

I read the Bachelor spoilers last week. Im not even bothering to watch the finale because Im so disappointed that they would do that. If the spoilers are correct,I can't see myself watching this show ever again.

Anya said...

marci said...And...for all my fellow sheeple...enjoy. :)

Thank you, I will! Same to you! Even the less interesting shows always have a few scenes that make it worthwhile viewing for me.

You guys, I have watched many series end that I wanted to stay on longer (Six Feet Under, The Sopranos, The Guardian, etc.). Life goes on! In this case, it's the Gosselins' decision, and I do wish them wisdom in knowing when to call it quits.

Liza Beth and Jersey Girl have me interested in this Bachelor finale even though I haven't seen more than a few minutes this season!

merryway said...

And really OT but does anyone remember the good old days where school wasn't so PC and they had actual Christmas programs and parties, etc and you could send "homemade" cupcakes and stuff to school? Yeah, I'm old!!

I do, I'm that old! It was a little shocked when I read this to realize this doesn't happen anymore, especially the cupcakes. But, I wouldn't want my little one to eat cupcakes from some strange house.
I'm glad I have a choice this time. I don't trust the schools to get them home alive anymore

Samnc, I'm glad you're little one adjusted. It's so hard to watch them go through those things. I can't imagine how silent the G's house will be when they're all in school. I also wondered if some aren't ready for kindergarten how that will be for the family. It would prob be easier if they all stayed in the same grade, but there's no guarantee. If they stay in their private school (which I would assume because of their faith) it will be easier to keep them in the same grade with more attn per student.

Marci, love the pic!

OhioMom53 said...

I watched a rerun episode of J&K regarding 2008 Memorial Day where Kate stated that her and Jon were away that weekend but collected herself and said the kids were with them. Later on in the episode as she is combing Hannah's hair she asked if Hannah had taken a shower the night before and Hanna said No, then Yes, and Kate commented on the Yes,No answer. So if the kids and Jon and Kate didn't get back until 2:30 a.m. why didn't she know if Hannah took a shower. Just little abnormalties I have been noticing in the season w/o Jen and Scott as the team producing this show.

Cindee said...

I kinda resent the comments about the cupcakes coming from a strange house. I have always contributed to my kids' classrooms and I am a stranger to most of the kids and parents. I take the time to do things for the class (that the other parents don't) and I hope they and their parents (whom I do not know) appreciate it. I certainly have had some rude parents look down their nose at me when I showed up for school functions and I didn't like it. I was there for their kids and I always treated them as my kids. How will your children learn to tolerate those who you consider from "strange homes." These homes are where their classmates live after all. They probably view you as being from a strange home also. Keep in mind these kids will most likely spend 12 years together and could end up as great lifelong friends. Tolerance is not a bad thing to learn.

Baby Mama said...

Was it me, or did anyone feel this episode would have been more appropriate for the season finale March 23rd? Seeing them take down the lights was sad, but at least you could have known that the new season was coming soon! Also did anyone see the commercial for 12 at the table that will follow the season finale? What do you think people will have to say about that?

merryway said...

Cindee, In a perfect world, I would agree with you. But the reality is that it's impossible to know every parent and every household in some school districts. So, we're talking about blind faith in complete strangers. In my old district some 20 years ago it was fine, it was a small old neighborhood, I did know most of the parents. In the school district I am in today, I do not even want to send my last little one there on the bus. I feel bad for the parents who have no choice. Even if I do know the families, that doesn't guarantee I want my children to associate or eat their food. This is a safety issue and I'm not sure how tolerance comes into my opinion. I'm glad you are so involved. I'm sure you'll find it rewarding regardless of any snubs you might receive. I was also very involved and it was a lot of fun. I still get emails from some of the kids I watched grow up and filled my house all hours of the day and night as teenagers.

I watched the show, but I was so sleepy. I do remember balloons. I have almost a phobia about those things, I hate them because you never know when they're going to pop. I love the mylar ones. I'm going to catch the next showing and pay more attn.

MonicaW42 said...

Cindee,
I don't think Merryway meant it as someone having a "strange home" but more of a "strangers" home.

Unfortunately in today's society, schools have had to change their policy to protect their students. I understand that. There are food allergies, etc... and other issues. I think we were more reflecting on how things "use to be".

Still waiting on Jon and Kate episode tonight. Darn west coast time.

On Bachelor.... I am boycotting the show. After the Rose....staged, staged, staged. It felt really phony. Just Sayin....

merryway said...

Hey all you sheeple! Where are you? You're all supposed to be glued to your tv screens and posting at the same time like me! :) What a cute kid episode. They had a blast running around the old house. My fav moment was how Aaden quiet commanded because he couldn't hear to burp the bear. I couldn't believe it got quiet, that was so funny.
Wow, that was a lot of work to move the jungle gym. So miserable in the cold weather to do that kind of stuff. That was very sad to see Jon's face look pained when he mentioned the stuff that belonged to his father. I think it's really cool that all the children have that gift from their grandfather to play on at their new place. The puppies are bigger but still have all the puppy fuzz.
I wish Jon talked more on the couch and I wished Kate complained less while working. My fav moments of her are more like when she was blowing up the balloons and when she shows her nonchalance attitude about things going on around her. I like seeing her in that manner.

Baby Mama, it would have been a good finale. I was kind of hoping they might do another charity show again. I think that would be a nice tradition to keep going for the rest of their show. I didn't see the commercial.

Guinevere said...

My fav moment was how Aaden quiet commanded because he couldn't hear to burp the bear. I couldn't believe it got quiet, that was so funny.

I loved that too. Alexis was kind of leaning on Aaden and they both looked so cute!

It was great to get a glimpse of the dogs - how big they've gotten!

I felt bad for Jon with the play structure too; that seemed like a totally thankless job.

I wish Jon talked more on the couch and I wished Kate complained less while working. My fav moments of her are more like when she was blowing up the balloons and when she shows her nonchalance attitude about things going on around her. I like seeing her in that manner.

I liked seeing Kate a bit more energetic and happy this episode. I'm not generally bothered by the complaining. It almost comes off as white noise to me at this point, and besides, Kate wouldn't be Kate without the kvetching. As long as she's not being actually bitchy about it, it seems pretty harmless to me. I would imagine her family would tune it out at this point, too.

SamanthaNC said...

I forgot it was on andmissed the first half. I hate moving so much that watching them clean up and finish going through things made me cringe. I cant imagine trying to entertain 8 kids in the process.

My husband is a packrat and wants to keep everything he's ever owned, but I sympathize with Jon not wanting to throw anything from his dad away, I'm sure I wouldn't either.

Taking down that swingset looked like a pain, did I miss why they didn't just get a new one? I'm all for frugality, but that seems like way more trouble than its worth if you can afford a new one.

Eileen said...

Cindee, my grandson's school still has bake sales to raise money for different things and they ask for people to send in 'home-baked' goodies. Also, on the child's birthday they ask for you to send in cupcakes and I notice that it is 50/50 home-baked vs store-bought.
Monica, I never even thought about food allergies, good point, but I guess that could happen with store-bought too. I guess in that case all bake sales should be banned.

I am never watching The Bachelor again. What a let-down! I know these things are somewhat scripted on Reality shows, but this was ridiculous.

marci said...

As usual, the frenzied bashing of the Gosselins (when all anyone had to do was wait to see a future episode) was wasted time and effort; i.e., the harping about how hypocritical it was for Kate to complain about things being dirty in the new house when the real estate pictures showed a messy old house.

I was pretty sure the realtor had taken pictures when they were in the process of cleaning up...and lo' and behond, there's the realtor taking a picture of the laundry room and then the camera shows a view of the unkempt room.

I know these detractors aren't *trying* to be logical or reasonable when they go off on a tangent over some perceived slight by the Gosselins, but that's just an example of how easily they get their patties in a wad over nothing.

About the show...

I like the day-in-the-life shows. And while this wasn't exactly thrilling, it was a good picture of how they go about dealing with 8 kids when they've got your hands full and they're doing a major project.

As I thought, they're fielding almost constant complaints about who did what to who, etc., from the kids, and I too like that Kate was shown being very matter-of-fact/go-on-about-your-business about it. She actually did a great job keeping them fed and busy with all they had to do around the house. I personally wouldn't have even attempted it with 8 kids underfoot.

Aaden and his bear was really cute. I love the kids' interactions at this age.

Seeing the kids being wild in the old house does give me a pretty good picture of how insane that house would have become as these kids got bigger. I can see why they felt they were bursting at the seams in the old house.

I'm really impressed Jon takes the time to do some of the projects he does. Taking down the jungle gym from his dad IS a quite a project, but I can see it means a lot to him to preserve that for the kids. They are VERY sentimental about Jon's father, which I find very touching.

Overall, enjoyable show. I'm curious to see what they chose as a "season finale". And how much of a break is there going to be before the new season starts? We've had almost a year of continuous new shows.

What, o' what will we sheeple do without our weekly fix??? Baaaa. Baaaaa.

marci said...

Regarding bring food in for the kids at school....

My son's school will ONLY allow people to bring in store-bought food, primarily because of food allergy concerns. I know some schools are banning bringing in food from outside sources altogether. You are also prohibited from packing your child peanut butter-anything so there's no possibility to affect an allergic child.

And...when you buy baked goods at the grocery store bakery they have the ingredients listed on the label, so you can see what's in it.

CincyMom said...

I thought I was going to pass out watching Kate pull on her hoop earing. I almost could see her actual ear hole and the hole ear was being pulled out from her head.

I can't see anything else in my mind.

Jon keeping the jungle gym was sweet. Wow that would've been a lot of work. And we heard they moved everything and were just waiting for the piano, so it doesn't stay with the house, I guess.

Dogs were really cute!

Kate said the pinecones would go on the mantle. It will be nice to see something with such a funny memory for them.

Kate was going on and on saying she couldn't wait til the lights went off. I get it, but have to think if it bothered her, it must have really bothered the kids too.

I wonder how they got away without having to do it in the new house?

Amy in INdy said...

This episode actually made me sad! Monday nights used to be the highlight of my week. I think it hit me hard this week because it started when Kate walked in and said how did we live here for so long? There are so many people here in INdianapolis that have lost their jobs this past week and do not know where their next mortgage payment is coming from. Let alone being able to move into a new home and let your old one set for three months before you even go and clean it out. When did I miss this show changing? When did it go from watching the kids, and the nagging being about everyday stress, to just being nasty. Please do not bash me and tell me to go to the gwop site. I am a true fan that is sad. After seeing Kate at the Indianapolis home show my opinion of her changed quite a bit. Does anyone else not see a major change in the show? The enjoyment factor is about gone for me and I will just quit watching when it is, but I miss the old days.

Mom said...

I have to agree with Guin when it comes to K's complaining being "white noise."

Clearly the realtor took these pics prior to the house being cleaned. Honestly, I thought that was in poor judgement - as far as the realtor's decision to do this.

The kids were totally cute. The bear burping was funny.

Jon taking the swingset was awesome. I'm sentimental like that when it comes to "objects." I would never make it through one of those "clean up type" shows coming to my house and making me throw my stuff out. I'd bawl like a baby!

The ending was great - probably my fav part. And, yes, Baby Mama, it would have made the better season finale.

Honestly, I don't know where one season ends and the other begins.

SamanthaNC said...

Amy,

I think we all take things for granted sometimes. Their house was getting crowded with 10 people and I think after being in the BIG house and then coming back to their old house, it probably looked very small, I dont think there was anything else behind that statement. I'm sorry your town is having a hard time, I think most towns are- I hope things turn around soon, we will all be relieved when it does. Thanks for sharing your true feelings- we're really not that bad lol.

Eileen said...

Oh, Amy, I am not a fan of the show and I never felt bashed here for that. I stopped watching a few seasons ago along with stopping some of the other Reality TV. I thought then with what one blog said recently about how Reality TV should be renamed Altered Reality TV. And I saw a big change in a lot of these shows a long time ago, and not only the Gosselin family but other families of Reality TV became to me celebrity families and they didn't hold any interest for me anymore. My initial attraction to all these shows was that I was seeing 'regular' families coping with the same everyday problems I might be coping with or have tried to cope with in the past. After awhile I couldn't relate to them anymore so I lost interest. Plus, they all seemed like watching one big commercial sometimes. I like reading the recaps though, they are commercial-free!

Amy in Indy said...

I always come here to see recaps or opinions when I miss it. This is a positive place, and I appreciate the people here! Glad I am not alone in feeling that way about the reality of some of these shows. I miss the seeing the kids go down for their naps and how you dress and feed them and deal with everyday life. I am so thankful the Gosselins do not seem to have to budget as much, but it was that type of show that hit home with me. I will still watch as long as I can because I love the kiddos. I did not realize they had changed producers. Does anyone know why?

Guinevere said...

Kate was going on and on saying she couldn't wait til the lights went off. I get it, but have to think if it bothered her, it must have really bothered the kids too.

I don't think necessarily. Kate is uptight and a complainer, and she didn't specifically say *why* the lights bothered her, did she? So I didn't take it to me they were so unpleasant or bright that they bothered the kids.

Guinevere said...

Amy in Indy, I think the Gosselins' lifestyle has obviously changed, but I don't find it sad. I can see why it would bother you, but then my suggestion would be to stop watching. I don't mean that as bashing; I just think if you're not enjoying it, you shouldn't watch. I've come to understand that there are some viewers who are torn because they like to see the kids but don't like other aspects of the show. Obviously, everyone has to decide for themselves, but as much as I enjoy watching the Gosselin kids, it would not be worth it to me to watch a show that made me sad or angry or unhappy in any way. TV should be entertainment, by and large, and I have enough things that stress me out IRL. That's just my take on it.

indianprincess said...

Did Jon go to Utah back in January? because I ask this...Jon looked uncomfortable on the interview chair with a sunburn. I don't know but he looked like he was going to cry when he was explaining he can't get rid of his fathers stuff. I think Kate mentioned one time in an episode she hates bright lights and she also likes quiet plus when the lights are on she can see the dirt and dust better which drives her crazy. I don't think those lights are going up in the new house since she asked the camera person how better of a person she is without them. Ha..the ending was great and it was the best part.

AllisonM said...

I had never noticed those lights before they showed them taking them down tonight. Those are really harsh lights and they were everywhere except the laundry room and J and K's bedroom?

I love the gosselins but I think this was a really poor call on their part, no wonder Hannah gets migranes, those lights are awful and those poor kids had them in their rooms and all their living areas?

I hope they have something better at the new house.

Sonia said...

AmyinIndy - What about seeing Kate at the indy home show changed your opinon of her? I have never seen her speak in person, I live on the west coast and I dont think they do much over here, but I am just curious what about her turned you off?

Kikibee said...

I've really enjoyed the past few episodes. They haven't been as cringe inducing as some. Cute kids,not too much bickering.

I loved the kids telling the cameraman "duck your head" when going into the closet(?). And burping the bear.

I can't believe all the work Jon put into taking the playset apart.
And, he's going to have to put it back together.

Hi Amy, I'm from Indy too. I just think that people who have a tv show are not like me, anyway, so what they do doesn't bother me.
You wouldn't want them to do the show and not make more money, would you? Now, if I actually knew them I might feel differently, but as it is, what they do or have has nothing to do with me.

I think Kate just doesn't censor what she says (which is part of the appeal of the show, though some would differ). She is just thinking,and speaking, in terms of her life and her feelings about
her old house. That doesn't mean she doesn't have sympathy for people in less fortunate circumstances, but that isn't foremost in her mind when she's being filmed. My house is small, and I complain sometimes, even though I know there are people who don't have homes.

massmom said...

I too just felt so sad after watching this episode last night. I expected the two of them to at least acknowledge all the changes that happened in that house and be mindful of what transpired there. I have been such a faithful fan of this show since it began. The early episodes were so sweet and real. Sure Kate was not the picture perfect wife and mother, and that's exactly why I loved her. Little by little I feel this sweet little family has turned into something so different than who they once were, and it has nothing to do with the size of their house or their bank account. IMO, you can see the two of them getting further and further apart each week, and that makes me feel sad for them and their children. I hope that I am wrong and next season will be different. But for now, I will only be watching the repeats.

Guinevere said...

massmom, I guess I just don't understand that level of investment - of feeling sad about how the Gosselins' lives have changed. I would be sad if anything ever happened to anyone in the family (God forbid!), but to be sad over them not being the same people they were two years ago? I don't see it.

We all change over time. I think most of the changes in the Gosselins' lives have been positive. I don't see this big difference that some viewers see in J&K's relationship - they have always been snappish with each other, and never been touchy-feely with each other. I really don't see their relationship getting worse week to week - if anything, how they act and react with each other seems to go up and down (I suspect, based on how tired and stressed they are at the time).

It sounds like you've made the right decision for you, to stop watching. Would that everyone who no longer enjoys the show would do the same!

Anya said...

massmom said...Little by little I feel this sweet little family has turned into something so different than who they once were, and it has nothing to do with the size of their house or their bank account.

I hear what you are saying. I don't feel as pessimistic as you do (I don't really feel I have enough factual information to make a determination), but things HAVE changed for the Gosselins'. I don't think anyone is disputing that. I understand being wistful for the shows in the past. Unfortunately, all shows change and sometimes we don't like the changes. I do acknowledge there is a difference when there is a real family involved, however.

On a separate note, I have to say seeing the extent of the lighting the Gosselins' had installed in their home did bother me a bit. I understand the lights were not on all the time and perhaps not all family members would be bothered by them. It just didn't sit entirely well with me. For one thing, I would think the lights would be hot? In any case, like others, I hope they won't have this need in their new home.

Anya said...

On a more positive note, did anyone catch Alexis' sticking her tongue out (at Kate perhaps?) when Kate told her to skedaddle out of the basement. That was cute.

I loved all the kids running around the house just being kids. I liked seeing the boys and girls play together as they were doing in Mady and Cara's closet (I believe).

Hey, Samantha, THANK YOU for finding me that certain something. Much appreciated.

massmom said...

Anya, you are so right. I really don't have any facts and shouldn't make assumptions. I really do hope it's all good for them in "real" life, but the actual show is definitely not appealing to me anymore.

Amy in Indy said...

HI Kikibee,

I am glad they have money and do not have to watch everything. What I meant to convey by my message was the way she acted about how annoying ti was to have the other hosue setting there for three months. I would have though of that as a luxury to be able to do financially do that. Not annoying at all. I think it is great they can buy or do what they can, but that is a positive, not something to complain about. But JMO. :)

Someone asked what changed for me from the home show. First of all none of us could beleive how think kate really is. She is very pretty, but almost sickly thin. When she got up someone wanted to ask a question and her response was that we could not ask questions ( which I understand) but that we were there to listen to her. Which is true, we were. The advertising said she was coming to speak about organization. All she spoke about was her book being a best seller. Not once was Beth mentioned. It was just about all of the writing she had done. I thoguht Beth had played a big part in that, but I do not look into all of the rumors about their relationship, so who knows. :) It was all PR and that was what she was there for, just not at all what I expected.
It was unfortunate that some of the people there around us where there simply to pick apart everything she said and every action that she made. I was hoping that day would have proved them wrong, but the way the presentation went it was honestly just more ammunition.

I would be lying if I said I was not sad about the shows turn this year. And I know some do not understand that, but anytime something enjoyable to me changes a lot it is a little bit of a letdown. Am I going to loose sleep over it? NO. :) I just looked forward to Mondays listening to the next things those cute little ones would do.

Amy

KentuckyMom said...

AmyinIndy,

I have tickets to see Kate on Sunday. I'm very interested to see her in person .. about her physical appearance as well as the message she's going to bring. The speaking engagement is part of a church sermon series ... how Jesus is at the Core of great families. From what I hear, the church did not pay a large sum for Kate to come (booked pre-PR firm representation), so I am curious whether or not there will be a love offering collected.

Bella Donna said...

The kids were cute in this episode (as usual). Loved the "bear burping" and the closet playing. Typical kid stuff.

If I can be shallow for a minute: I watched a rerun of the WDW trip after this, and I was amazed at the physical change in Kate from then to now. She was so pretty in the WDW show! She looked healthy & seemed to glow.

These recent shows, IMO while she is still pretty, she looks so tired & thin. I would guess that a lot of it is the traveling she does. I know people change over the years, and I'm not trying to diss her, but the contrast is startling to me.

Eileen said...

I find it obvious that people have a vested interest in the Gosselin family. I read the comments and I see/hear concern, apprehension, and sometimes sadness. I think that when you see these people and you know they are a real family and they give you glimpse into their personal lives, they definitely do become more than just a show for many people. You visit their home once a week, you come to know them almost intimately. It's apparent from the comments that you know the personalities of each child, what each likes and dislikes, the same as you would a close friend or relative. So of course your heart is going to go out to them if you sense a change going on in the family, or you sense they are being treated unfairly. And noting a change in appearance doesn't mean you are shallow, Bella Donna, I'm sure you would feel the same way about a family member if you saw a change that you perceived to be a drastic one (whether physical or otherwise).
I think it's nice you have a forum like this to voice your feelings and get feedback from each other.

JayneW said...

I feel terrible for posting this, but it is how I truly feel. I just caught this episode on my DVR, and while I love this show and I think its great that they have a bigger new house for themselves and their kids it bothered me that Kate kept going on and on about how small the house was and how she couldnt believe they lived there, etc.

With so many people losing their homes right it seemed really insensitive. Yes I know how Kate is and that is part of why we love her, but this just rubbed me the wrong way. They are so blessed ot have a nice new home, and not have the pressure of having to sell the old one first, why not be grateful for that instead of complaining over these petty things.

I love this show and will keep watching it, I just realy hope for jon and Kate and the kids sake that they are able to appreciate all they have and not take it for granted.

Guinevere said...

With so many people losing their homes right it seemed really insensitive. Yes I know how Kate is and that is part of why we love her, but this just rubbed me the wrong way. They are so blessed ot have a nice new home, and not have the pressure of having to sell the old one first, why not be grateful for that instead of complaining over these petty things.

I really didn't perceive it as complaining - I thought it was more the case that she was kind of marveling at how small the old place seemed after a few months of being in the new place (which is obviously SO MUCH bigger).

Was it insensitive? Maybe. Are we (most of us here are presumably American) insensitive when we talk about losing a job or even a home, when there are people in the world who have never had a home that was more than a tin-roofed shack (if they are lucky)? Who don't get enough to eat each day? My point is, being "blessed" is relative, and you can always look up and find someone above you who has it better than you and who you don't think is sufficiently grateful. But in doing so you're ignoring the fact that you (that's a general "you", not a specific one) have many people below you who maybe have reason to wonder why YOU aren't grateful for what you have.

marci said...

Guin,

You're really on to something about Americans not realizing how blessed they are compared to a large portion of the world's population. I have many friends and family members who live overseas (Europe and South America) who think America is an amazing country, but that Americans whine an awful lot for citizens who have so much freedom, power and relative wealth.

Kate complained about having to carry the expense of the old house. I don't care how much money you have, an unnecessary financial burden is something people will complain about.

But....I can see how if people are struggling to hold on to one house, it's hard to listen to someone moan about having a burdensome "extra" house.

Guinevere said...

But....I can see how if people are struggling to hold on to one house, it's hard to listen to someone moan about having a burdensome "extra" house.

Oh, absolutely. I've always said, Kate is not stoic. She's a complainer and a pessimist, and that can be tiresome to listen to.