Wednesday, May 13, 2009

Kevin and Jodi Speak

From Star Magazine :


Jon & Kate Plus 8 wife Kate Gosselin got on her high horse Tuesday slamming reports that she may have been cheating with her hunky married bodyguard. But what she didn't know when she spoke to a magazine was the source of those explosive revelations!

In the May 25 issue of Star, we have an exclusive tell-all with the couple who were closer to Kate than anyone else -- her brother Kevin Kreider and his wife, "Aunt" Jodi. They were mainstays of the TLC show for its first three seasons

82 comments:

LoriNJ1970 said...

I always gave Jodi the benefit of the doubt regarding her sisters blog, but if she and Kevin really gave an interview to Star I have no respect left for any of them.
Why can't they all shut up already? If Jodi and Kevin wanted to stick up for Jon and Kate or just Kate they could have chosen and more respectable magazine. Still I believe shutting up on the whole subject is the answer.

Liza Beth said...

So much for Jodi wanting to be out of the spotlight as Julie said on her site.

Then again from the article there is no clear info who they talked to, so maybe they just found info on Julie's site to publish.

I'm done with all of this, though. I've been done for awhile and now its just enough. This is ridiculous- everyone wants to get their name in the paper and 'set the record straight' when all they are really doing is tearing the family apart more. If Jodi and Kevin really cared they would address their concerns to Kate and Jon in person- not go to the Star Magazine of all places.

Trish said...

I am going to consider the source on this one and wait until it plays out more before I form an opinion.
My first instinct though is that I have a difficult time believing that Kevin would do this to Kate...no matter what happened between the two couples.

lulubae said...

Ugh, all these people are just gross. So much for caring about the kids right? Let's air the dirty laundry out there for the kids to inevitably be exposed to.

I think, in the end, both Jon and Kate are at fault for the apparent dissolution of that marriage. I don't think they can use each other as an excuse for their actions though, being that they are both adults. They have to own the stuff they have done, their part in all of this.

Things seem to have taken a 180 where in the beginning Kate was home and Jon worked. Now its the other way around. And to a point it seems like maybe that wasn't a choice that was well-debated or made.

In any case, what's done is done. They BOTH have to resolve to leave this here and move forward and not hash it out publicly where their kids will inevitably be exposed to it. I can't imagine it wont be easy for the children to see in print their mother say she's not sure if she'll stay with the dad or even Jon say if he wants the show or not or the pictures and such. All that stuff is public record now. And because of that, those are the things that may haunt these kids in the end and maybe make them think it's all their fault somehow cause in essence the show used to be about them.

And to me, that's the real tragedy of the whole thing.

Grayce said...

After reading the "teasers" - private contract Kate has w/ Jon, blah blah blah - all I could say was OH FOR GODS SAKE.

Sensationalism at it's best. Yep, in the grocery line, I totally believed that Oprah was abducted by aliens. Oh! sign me up for a subscription now!

Jodi and Kevin MIGHT have given a brief quote, but come on, who is buying into all this crap? Just because a rag puts quotes around a statement doesn't mean key words have not been left out. Misdirection. Sells rags.

I think I'm finally done, I'll maybe consider articles from People or interviews from K., but the rest of them? Reliable source? LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!

Grayce said...

How ironic, I click over to People and sure enough, there is a new article.

It looks like K. needed some time to come to grips w/ it, IMO, it's over, Jon cheated, and K. is processing the future.

But I still feel the same way about the rags! private contracts, still funny to me....

Illinois Mom said...

The only one's truly responsible for this travesty are Jon and Kate themselves.

Maybe they did try and talk to Jon and Kate.

I am with you though, Lizabeth, I am ready for this to be over.

SamanthaNC said...

No matter what is true or isn't- I seriously hope that Kevin and Jodi (but especially Kevin) wouldn't stoop so low.

I wish everyone- all of them- would just shut up for now, resolve whatever is going on in one way or another, and let this crapfest slowly die down. Oy vey.

themrs said...

why is it when "friends" of theirs come out and say the allegations are false, everyone immediately believes it and applauds that friends are finally sticking up for them. but when their own family comes forward and says that the allegations are true- then it is a "rag" magazine, it can't be believed and we loose all respect for them? that seems like a glaring double standard to me. if jodi had come forth and defended J&K and stated it was all lies, suddenly she'd be redeemed and loved by all. but because she (and KATES BROTHER) say it's true, they'll get trashed now as disrespectful and wanting the spotlight. no one accused the "longtime family friends" who spoke out as seeking the spotlight.

Liza Beth said...

themrs, I draw issue with this because of Julie's last post on her blog. It says:

"Jodi is thankful for the support that she is receiving, but at the same time, it is a constant reminder of the past. She feels like she is now at a turning point, but with the recent media coverage, it's impossible for her to move forward when more and more people are finding my blog and approaching her in real life. She appreciates the encouragement, but knows this is what she needs to do."

I am more apt to believe old friends who have never claimed to want to "move on" from the spotlight and media attention than someone whose sister had a really detailed blog of personal family details which she then took down so that they could get away from the drama.

Teach Me to Be Still said...

I loved seeing Jodi on the show in earlier seasons. Such a sweet, loving aunt! What a saint to watch the children so often and so frequently. I really didn't believe any of the rumors about the show until I read her sister's blog. I had wondered what happened and why she was no longer in their lives. It convinced me there was more to the Kate & Jon situation than the camera was showing. I stopped watching the show once I heard the truth from Jodi....

However, I am very disappointed Kevin and Jodi have now sold their story to the Star. Why not just post the story on the original blog for free? I think it would have given them more credibility. Now, they just look like Kate & Jon--trying to profit off the situation. Disappointing...

themrs said...

yes, she did say that.... six months ago. don't we all agree here that we don't hold kate to things she said last year as she may have changed her mind or circumstances since then? does that rule only apply to her? jodi is not allowed to change her mind?
btw- one of those "old friends" was the bouncer for the bar he was caught in. i'd think that spotlight may have been good business for them.
a few days ago, everyone was pleased with how kate is handling this privately and trying to remain mum (which i agreed with). now she's on the cover of this week's People talking about how they may divorce and that jon is just mad because he got caught. will that change anyone's opinion of her handling it?

Anya said...

Teach Me to Be Still said...
However, I am very disappointed Kevin and Jodi have now sold their story to the Star. Why not just post the story on the original blog for free? I think it would have given them more credibility. Now, they just look like Kate & Jon--trying to profit off the situation. Disappointing...
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I agree. I will say that I don't think anything other than a teaser of the story is online now (correct me if I am wrong?). It's hard to tell how much Kevin and Jodi opened up without seeing direct quotations.

Obviously, this is a family at odds and there appear to be hurt feelings. In most family disagreements, there is blame to go around. Even if Kate is almost solely responsible for this mess, however, I don't think Kevin and Jodi did the right thing in speaking with Star Magazine. I just don't see how they could possibly think this would make the situation better.....

Nina Bell said...

a few days ago, everyone was pleased with how kate is handling this privately and trying to remain mum (which i agreed with). I don't remember weighing in on this.

Illinois Mom said...

And Jodi's sister is posting on another blog again.

Good point, themrs!

I say where there is smoke, there's fire, and I think the Gosselin's are a blazin'!

LoriNJ1970 said...

Themrs...

Personally I don't know what was said in Star ..positive or negative..they should all shut up.

Someone made a good point though, we really don't know if Kevin and Jodie did give an interview or if this is just rehashing old news.

SamanthaNC said...

themrs-

I dont think Kate should be discussing it with people at all. I have always liked Jodi and Kevin- but if they really spoke to Star magazine and devulged details that should remain personal- that's unacceptable. How would any of us like it if our family members shouted our private business from the rooftops? If it's true, (I don't know bc I won't buy Star)- it is beyond shitty of them. Sometimes that's just the only word that will do.

Three Amazing Kids said...

Woah. That is low of Kevin and Jodi if it is true. The whole thing is so sick.

AAP said...

If this story turns out to be true, I will be very sad because it means that 1) Kevin and Jodi are still part of the kids lives, which I think is important for all kids involved and 2) it makes Jodi and Kevin as slimy as the other girl's brother.

As much as I've defended Julie in the past for speaking out on her sister's behalf, I would think it is much more likely the story originated with her, with her stating it came from Kevin and Joidi (whether it is true or not). Again, it makes her as slimy as the brother.

Anya said...

themrs said...yes, she did say that....btw- one of those "old friends" was the bouncer for the bar he was caught in. i'd think that spotlight may have been good business for them. ............

In fairness to our posters, I don't remember anyone falling all over themselves to cheer on the "friends" who spoke up. I think there were some general comments that it was nice there were people speaking up for them.

I understand the "friends" spoke to "a rag" and Kevin and Jodi spoke to "a rag". For me, the difference is that Kevin and Jodi are family and they may have spoken not to lend support, but to contribute to the gossip swirling around J&K.

On a side note, if we believe this story, I guess Jon & Kate and Kevin & Jodi were never completely out of contact as some alleged?

themrs said...

i don't see kevin and jodi talking as being any tackier than kate going on the cover of People and suddenly throwing jon under the bus. either you want your business private or you don't. you can't have both. if she wanted it private, she shouldn't be talking to mags about it. she should deal with it privately like she said she was.

SamanthaNC said...

i don't see kevin and jodi talking as being any tackier than kate going on the cover of People and suddenly throwing jon under the bus. either you want your business private or you don't. you can't have both. if she wanted it private, she shouldn't be talking to mags about it. she should deal with it privately like she said she was.You're right it was extremely tacky. But it is her business to discuss- not Kevin and Jodi's. There's a huge difference to me in tacky and vindictive. IF Jodi and Kevin did this- it's vindictive, tasteless, and tacky doesn't even begin to describe it.

jb said...

Damage has already been done to all involved. In light of all of the 'news' now being plastered all over magazines, talk shows, etc, maybe Kevin and Jodi felt like if they finally blow Kate's cover to the world, they can spare the kids from having to endure a lifetime of this instead of just their early years. Maybe those kids have a prayer of a normal childhood yet if their father and mother get help from counseling instead of just help from those wanting to make money off of them. Isn't it better to start cleaning things up rather than let the parents continue this for the kids entire chilhood?

Anya said...

TheMrs., I agree I am not sure it was in the family's best interest for Kate to be on the cover of People Magazine.

That said, I think Samantha has pointed out a very important difference between Kate speaking with People Magazine and Kevin & Jodi speaking with Star Magazine.

Perhaps things will become clearer when we have the opportunity to see both articles in full...?

Illinois Mom said...

IF Jodi and Kevin did this- it's vindictive, tasteless, and tacky doesn't even begin to describe it.

May 13, 2009 10:09 AM

I agree with you Samantha, I think the whole Jodi video was the same.

We don't know what happened on the other side to promt her to do such a mean thing, there are stories yes, but I think there is a lot that is still going to be told.
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I for one, wish Kate would just shut her pie hole, and talking to every source available has rattled the chains of the paps, and now it looks like the relatives.

Theresa said...

Trish said...
I am going to consider the source on this one and wait until it plays out more before I form an opinion.
My first instinct though is that I have a difficult time believing that Kevin would do this to Kate...no matter what happened between the two couples.

May 13, 2009 9:01 AM
I'm with you on that Trish.

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It looks like K. needed some time to come to grips w/ it, IMO, it's over, Jon cheated, and K. is processing the future. That's how I read it too Grayce. I give Kate credit for being as strong as she can during this time and working to provide for the kids (if Jon goes completely awol). I know we don't see what happens outside of the pictures and show, but on a day to day basis, I hope it's not like how it's portrayed. But there is a part of me that really hopes that they can step outside of the paparazzi/rag mess and get to the core of what brought them together and work on that marriage. They owe that to the kids.
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I wish everyone- all of them- would just shut up for now, resolve whatever is going on in one way or another, and let this crapfest slowly die down. Oy vey.

May 13, 2009 9:31 AM
Exactly Samantha! Exactly.

I'm not sure it was in the best interest either for Kate to be on People's cover. Work on it in private.

themrs said...

what i can't figure out is why i give a crap? i mean, other than obviously not wanting harm to any family, these people are strangers to me. for some reason, this recent drama has brought our strong emotions in me. i think i have to take a step back and look at why that is.

SamanthaNC said...

From what we've seen on the show Jodi and Kevin are very loving - I have such a hard time picturing them doing this. We shall see I suppose.

indianprincess said...

This whole situation is getting stupid. No one is thinking about the children including Kevin and Jodi. It's sad and I'm so over this.

SamanthaNC said...

what i can't figure out is why i give a crap? i mean, other than obviously not wanting harm to any family, these people are strangers to me.I know exactly what you mean, other than not wanting anyone to get hurt I don't know what I'm up in arms about either. This show has always been a hot topic for me.

themrs said...

on a somewhat side note- i have a few predictions. i'm guessing that in the next week or so, kevin and jodi will be on talk shows. i'm also guessing that next week jon will be on the cover of some mag with his side of the story. this mess is only going to get horrifically worse before it goes away. that's my guess...

Guinevere said...

why is it when "friends" of theirs come out and say the allegations are false, everyone immediately believes it and applauds that friends are finally sticking up for them.Are you talking about on this site? I don't recall that happening. I recall there being some discussion about whether Jon's friends were unsavory or not because of their employment and living situations, but I don't recall anyone (much less everyone) immediately believing them and applauding them. Maybe you're thinking of another site?


if jodi had come forth and defended J&K and stated it was all lies, suddenly she'd be redeemed and loved by all. but because she (and KATES BROTHER) say it's true, they'll get trashed now as disrespectful and wanting the spotlight. I'll just say that I don't respect familial disloyalty and airing your dirty laundry in public. If Kevin had chosen to stand by his sister publicly, I would have thought he was being a good brother. If he had chosen to stay silent, I would've respected that. If he has indeed chosen to air J&K's dirty laundry for the public, then I don't respect that. I accept that he may have reasons for doing so (if some of the stuff that supposedly went on with Jodi are true, then I can understand him being angry with Kate), but I still don't think it's the correct or moral choice.

I felt the same way about Jason Hummel coming forward. I only am okay with Deanna Hummel criticizing her brother publicly because he had started it and she had a right to put his reliability and trustworthiness in question. It's still not the most dignified behavior in the world, to my mind, but I can understand it.

a few days ago, everyone was pleased with how kate is handling this privately and trying to remain mum (which i agreed with). now she's on the cover of this week's People talking about how they may divorce and that jon is just mad because he got caught. will that change anyone's opinion of her handling it?Once again, I don't think "everyone" felt one way or another about it. I don't know what the right answer is. So many people seem to know exactly what J&K should do, how they should live their lives, what they should say. I can't claim to. I understood keeping quiet and I understood the dignified comments Kate made about dealing with it in private. I understood her being a little more honest about what she saw as the problem (Jon being lost, having trouble dealing with the scrutiny, etc.). I don't know what to think about Kate talking openly about the possibility of the marriage ending or alluding to suspicions about Deanna Hummel. I can understand wanting to be honest about it, but I think the more she talks the more scrutiny they are going to continue to get, and I don't think that's a good thing. I still don't see it as being in the same league as Kevin and Jodi possibly speaking to a tabloid (a tabloid that has put out hurtful stories about J&K in the past). There is no good reason for that except spite, that I can see.

trish said...

themrs said...
"what i can't figure out is why i give a crap? i mean, other than obviously not wanting harm to any family, these people are strangers to me. for some reason, this recent drama has brought our strong emotions in me. i think i have to take a step back and look at why that is."

I'm guessing there are many of us that share that same sentiment...myself included.
I don't get it either.
For me its been a great show that I can watch with my kids...we all enjoy it immensly...my 15yr old son included.
For whatever reason we have come
to root for this family. For me, maybe its the whole underdog thing...they started off with a difficult situation and have really made something for themselves. For them to figure out a way to support their brood...I say more power to them. I only have five kids and the cost is staggering.
Unfortunately we are now seeing the downside. I can only hope this family sees it through...no matter who is right or wrong or whatever mistakes they have made be it big or small, my heart goes out to them...

Heather said...

IllinoisMom - which blog is Julie posting on now?

Guinevere said...

Damage has already been done to all involved. In light of all of the 'news' now being plastered all over magazines, talk shows, etc, maybe Kevin and Jodi felt like if they finally blow Kate's cover to the world, they can spare the kids from having to endure a lifetime of this instead of just their early years. Maybe those kids have a prayer of a normal childhood yet if their father and mother get help from counseling instead of just help from those wanting to make money off of them. Isn't it better to start cleaning things up rather than let the parents continue this for the kids entire chilhood?That sounds a little bit like, "We had to destroy the village to save the village."

I just don't think it's very likely that this was done with J&K's or the childrens' best interests at heart. I don't suscribe to the notion that Kate has any "cover" that needs to be blown, since her flaws have always been on display on the show. I don't see how talking about supposed infidelity on either side at all helps the Gosselin family. If (and I'm withholding judgment) Jodi and Kevin did this, the most likely reason would seem to me to be for spite or money, or some combination of the two. That makes me sad, because I like Jodi and Kevin, and I think it's a really crappy thing to do to a family member.

MollyS said...

I've thought about why I give a crap, too, themrs. Unfortunately, the only thing I can think of is pure entertainment. It's just become so juicy. Magazine covers, interviews, HLN, etc. And now Jodi and Kevin. I keep thinking to myself, "This is so trashy"; but that doesn't mean I can drag myself away. I know everyone keeps saying how horrible this must be for the kids, and even if they aren't aware, it's still horrible. But the truth is that I view the Gosselins as tv characters, not really humans. I don't feel "love" towards them by any means. If I did, not only would I probably be considered quite creepy, but I'd have stopped paying attention to the gossip and tried to get it out of the media. I don't really think there's a deeper issue here as to why I pay attention. I guess I do because it was a tv show I was interested in and talked about with some of my friends, and now it's all over the place.

SallySue said...

Apparently Kevin and Jodi are not the only ones speaking out. Kate has made the cover of the new People admitting their marriage is in trouble and not sure if it can be saved. For someone who is appalled by the same magazine why on earth is she on the cover which will only stir the pot more? Doesn't people put celebrities on their cover yet Kate isn't a celebrity and doesn't want to be? Kate now is the one that needs to stay quiet.

Saint said...

Whoever said everyone on this site felt one way or the other hasn't been reading closely. This site has a variety of positions expressed daily.

I am still amazed Kate is still talking to any magazine. As I said before, she was right to say she wanted to handle it privately (now handle it privately, Kate.)

Kevin and Jodi should talk (IMO,) but not about this! Answer the question, "Where is Aunt Jodi?" before you tell Star what Jon told you. What is wrong with these people?

How can Julie's story be true (the Kreiders have nothing to do with the Gosselins) if Jon told Kevin, and Kevin told the Star Magazine anything? Either there is contact or there is not, right? How the heck would Kevin and Jodi know about an affair if they have no contact? How would they know if they DO have contact?

What a sad family. The whole thing is so shameful.

On a side note, I think that posters here have been very fair. I completely understand the disgust some are feeling about the whole thing, too.

CincyMom said...

Wow--it just keeps coming. I think we keep reading and blogging is the whole "can't look away from a car crash" mentality.

I feel badly and take no pleasure and assign no blame in this situation. Could other choices have been made? Maybe, sure. But who can live in the past. You have to learn from it, improve and move on to the future.

I just can't imagine my personal things being bantied about by so many people and personally would have shut down the show if at all possible.

Maybe that's it. That is an idea that might take Kate awhile to wrap her head around (in her own words from People magazine) but eventually, she'll get there.

I hope each person goes on to be the best they can and all are happy.

Visit www.kayleighannefreeman.blogspot.com if you want to read an inspiring story and move away from this train wreck. In the midst of such challenges, this husband and wife have a strong bond that defies most predictions during hard times.

Kuromi said...

Themrs, you bring up a good point RE which sides/sources people choose to believe. But I think the difference between the "friends" sticking up for Jon in People, and Jodi/Kevin allegedly talking in Star (like others have said, we don't yet know if it was an interview or just a rehash of Julie's blog) is this: Star is known for publishing anonymous gossip and for paying people to say whatever makes for a great story. People, while terribly fluffy, is more reputable because it does not pay for sources. It's not prize-winning journalism, but it does seem to follow the basic ethics of the industry.

lulubae said...

Well, if that is Jodi's sister and Kevin and Jodi did give that interview, they are a tacky, classless bunch. If you want to save the children you don't do it by dragging the only family they've ever known through the mud.

How horrible.

Vela said...

I could be wrong, but magazines like Star, US, Nat'l Inquirer, etc. will run any kind of teaser quote that they can (i.e. People magazine and "Jon's just mad that he got caught"). If Star magazine isn't doing that, I'm more inclined to believe that whatever Kevin and Jodi said, isn't necessarily "airing dirty laundry".

Having said that, I don't know why they would bother talking to a magazine like Star, when they know that even with the best of intentions, something that they say will likely be taken out of context, they're only perpetuating this circus and they could potentially cause a lot of hurt feelings within their family.

Fanny said...

IMO, Kate is talking so much to save her own image. I don't know that I would necessarily call it spin(I don't know if she's telling how she really feels), but with all the negative press directed at her(instead of her cheating husband, go figure)she's not getting to be the victim that people can relate to. THAT is, IMO, why Jodi and Kevin are talking to rags. They're scared to death that she might come out on top.

I also want to say that I think it is so sad that many of the rumors in these rags were started by people on a blog that know absolutely nothing about this family. If that is child advocacy, I'd hate to see what passes for abuse.

MommyZinger said...

IndianPrincess,
I am so with you. This is just getting ridiculous. I think everyone involved should just stop talking.

Now, where is the Open Discussion or Book Club thread?

Liza Beth said...

MommyZinger-- shoot me an email (dearlizabeth@gmail.com) and I can update you on our Book Club :).

Vela and Fanny, I totally agree with what you guys said.

Illinois Mom said...

Well Jodi and Kevin might think Jon and Kate "started it". We have no idea how bad things are on the home front. In fact, one could say that Kate already did some dissing on Jodi publicly already with the gum episode.

Fanny, I think you make an interesting and plausible point. It does "seem" like Kate is flipping her story from "dealing with it in private" to the latest "we have problems for months".

I think she wants the spotlight.

Also have been thinking the worse this gets, I could see her having a major nervous meltdown.

Saint, you having probably figured out that Julie is talking again and telling people to be patient and not get upset with Jodi and Kevin, whatever.

I know part of me felt for the family that initailly drew me in. I cared about the kids, and I was drawn in. Then I started to feel sorry for the kids. Then I thought they weren't being entirely honest. Now I do think that Jon and Kate are getting what they deserve and I admit I am a tiny bit ashamed to say that. Then I go back to the kids and what the home life must be like, because no one will convince me that they aren't feeling the tension and that makes me really sad.

Julie is posting on the blog she always has. Don't know if we are suppsoed to talk about other blogs.

Fanny said...

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/05/exclusive-interview-jon-and-kate-shocker-her-brother-says-their-marriage-over


So it's true. How sad.

themrs said...

i was just coming to post that same link. what a mess

Liza Beth said...

OMFG, Fanny. Wow.

I'm done with all of this. Life is too short to obsess like I have been about other people. I am better off spending time with my real life friends and family (as well as the awesome friends I have met through this site!!) than I am with the Gosselins. There is no party with clean hands in this situation, and while we may never know exactly who was right, at least I can hope and pray the kids will be OK.

indianprincess said...

I'm going to say my peace and then I'm done. Kate no matter what she does will get thrown under the bus. People complain because she doesn't come out and say her peace and when she tells her story people complain she's trying to stay in the spotlight. Julie hasn't been around for months and then she starts blogging again when the Star article comes out. I thought Kevin and Jodi didn't have a relationship with Jon and Kate by what Julie has been saying since last year yet Kevin and Jodi know all of Jon and Kates personal relationships. Something's not right with this picture and how is this supposed to be protecting the children?

Kikibee said...

Wow, every time I fire up the computer, J&K are on a new magazine cover.

IF Kevin and Jodi talked to Star,
they are not helping any children, including their own. This is the same problem I had when Julie started speaking out (and I guess it goes for Kate now, too, although as others have said, she is talking about her own life).
What is this telling their children about how to deal with disagreements with their family or friends? Kevin and Jodi have children older than Mady and Cara, so they are probably more aware of what is going on. Do all of these people really want their chldren to think this is the way to handle relationships?

tintin said...

The article I read said that neither want to work on the marriage and their actions show it.

Seriously, get therapy and get off the TV/interview circuit! Spend time with your kids, take time to breathe. It seems to me like she is using her access to the media to vent, and get proper airtime for her side of the story. Her priorities seem really skewed to me. It may stem from her being hurt and angry, but that's why you need some down time more than ever.

I seriously hope I don't see an interview on Oprah down the line with Jon "telling it all". Or books by each telling the "truth" about how horrible it was to be married to each other. Sad sad sad.

BTW, I hate Star. They are a ridiculous mag. But if they're directly quoting Jodi and Kevin, wouldn't they get in trouble if what they're writing isn't true?

And if it is true, ew on Jodi and Kevin.

Grayce said...

I'm going to break all the rules and speculate and as to what Kate MIGHT be trying to do. JMO, don't slay me!

MAYBE Kate is doing all this PR/interviews/whatever because she's trying to salvage a career to bring in the money long term. MAYBE in her mind, she needs to play the media game to keep the career going for the benefit of the kids, the lifestyle, financial security, college funds. We don't know how financially secure they are and it's none of my business.

So, when Kate says she has the best interest of her children at heart, maybe she means providing long term income. I THINK she loves her job and it gives her peace of mind of never running out of $, coupons anyone?

Afterall, Kate is not warm and fuzzy by any stretch of the imagination, but again, IMO, Kate's personality makes me believe she thinks it's the right thing to perpetuate her career for the kids.

Nope, not defending Kate, but like everyone else, I am trying to figure out why the hell I can't look away either.

Lastly - I can see Kate telling/yelling at Jon -the show won't last forever, I need to do all of these interviews to ensure future income/career/books, for the kids because you don't work. JMO

Yeah, I know, I shouldn't be speculating, I sound like a major anti by dreaming up conversations she might have with Jon.

I would get much more work done if all of them would just go away. I'm really trying to not turn from a fence sitter into an anti, but all this crap is making it very difficult.

Teach Me to Be Still said...

Thanks for the link Fanny.

I actually liked the Radar interview of Jodi and Kevin. Obviously they are not in contact with Kate (she choose to distance herself from them) but with Jon. I suspect Jon gave them permission to go forward with their interview. They seem sincere in their belief to get the truth out there. We've always known Kate treated Jon horribly--not surprised to hear the crew had a hard time finding acceptable footage to use.

It's not too late Kate! Go back to your family, humble yourself and apologize. Get counseling, get back in the Word..... your family, your marriage and your children are worth it!

SamanthaNC said...

Ok. Wow. About Radar online- Jodi and Kevin are acting like they're on Oprah, "urging" Jon and Kate to do what's right, how noble. You're on RADAR online people. Seriously. No matter what is going on with Jon and Kate its their place to reveal-or not reveal, their marriage status. Gag me.

Vela said...

Well, I was wrong about the "airing the dirty laundry" part. This whole thing is playing out like a bad Jerry Springer episode . . . and the way things are going, I wouldn't be surprised if it comes to that.

It's really sad. I remember my parents divorced when I was six, and now that I'm old enough to understand these things, I know that they absolutely made the best decision for our family. But being so young at the time, I was so embarassed about it, that I don't think I told any of my friends, even my closest ones, for a long time. I'm not saying that Jon and Kate are getting a divorce - I have no idea. But the fact that the Gosselin kids don't get that luxury is really unfortunate.

I can't speak for them, but I wouldn't trade a "normal", private life for all of the ski lessons and Hawaiian vacations in the world.

Guinevere said...

We've always known Kate treated Jon horribly--not surprised to hear the crew had a hard time finding acceptable footage to use."We" haven't always known anything. Please don't assume that your opinions are universally shared.

It's not too late Kate! Go back to your family, humble yourself and apologize.That's the heart of it, for about 99% of the haters. Not concern for the kids, not genuine distaste for the choices Kate has made - simply an ugly desire to see a woman who has "overstepped" get knocked back into place. Humble yourself, Kate! The masses want to see you cry!

(This is not intended as a defense of Kate, who is undoubtedly flawed and has certainly made mistakes. It is disgust at the plebians in the Colisseum, screaming for blood. They make me sick.)

Kuromi said...

Grayce: I agree with your theory about Kate wanting tolay the monetary foundations so's to support her kids.

Illinois Mom: I never, ever thought that Kate was dissing Jodi in the gum episode. I thought she was commenting on how nice and sweet Jodi was compared to her mean old self! My reaction was threefold: "I, like Jodi, would have been softhearted and given them all gum too; "Kate, listen to Mady and save Collin's bear!"; "Whew, at least Kate calmed down to save the bear and to sound somewhat tactful when she called Jodi."

I saw that epi when it first aired, and not until a few months later did I even discover all the Internet chatter about the show in general and that episode in particular. I'm thinking that Julie might have been overly-sensitive and started the outrage herself, on GWOP and then her own blog, and the people who blindly follow anything anti-Kate jumped aboard.

Teach Me To Be Still: I've heard many times, from "reality" show stars or producers, that it takes many, many hours of shooting to find 15 or so minutes of usable footage. So if the cameramen really said that to Jodi, he probably wasn't saying how unique Kate made the situation.

Anya said...

CincyMom -- thanks for the link.

I am so sorry to hear of this loss. What a beautiful little girl...

Grace in CA said...

That's the heart of it, for about 99% of the haters. Not concern for the kids, not genuine distaste for the choices Kate has made - simply an ugly desire to see a woman who has "overstepped" get knocked back into place. Humble yourself, Kate! The masses want to see you cry!
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Well, I respectfully disagree with you Guin. The point Teach Me 2 B Still seems to be making is a positive one, not a hateful one. She's making a point of asking Kate to change her choices. Doesn't humbling yourself come along with admitting you were wrong and a promise to change? She doesn't have to do so for the public--why not privately with her family? Kate's actions are speaking louder than her words right now. She says she loves her children yet she continues to make choices that are drastically affecting their lives (continuing with the show despite Jon wanting to stop, the constant traveling, etc). Her words to her husband and her children are often mean and belittling (ie. when the kids thanked her for the dogs, she said "you're not welcome!" etc).

She can change but she will need to realize what is happening before it is too late, before the kids are grown and gone, before her husband is gone, friends gone, reality show gone. It won't be easy but for the sake of her family isn't it worth it? How is wishing for that hateful? Kate changing her ways can only be a benefit to the children. Jon certainly needs to work on some issues as well--not all the blame can be placed on Kate. Counseling (private, no show) for them all would be fantastic. I would love to see the family stay together.

Grace

MMC said...

I wonder what motivated Kevin and Jodi to speak so publicly about Jon and Kate? There are enough competing voices already out there, without their opinions. And, for them to speak to Star, of all publications, is below the belt. I think they should be quiet.

And, Jon, what were you thinking, speaking to Kevin and Jodi about your marriage (assuming he really did)?

Guinevere said...

Well, I respectfully disagree with you Guin. The point Teach Me 2 B Still seems to be making is a positive one, not a hateful one. She's making a point of asking Kate to change her choices. Doesn't humbling yourself come along with admitting you were wrong and a promise to change? She doesn't have to do so for the public--why not privately with her family?We don't know that she hasn't. Private means private. Meaning we wouldn't know about it. Which is the catch-22 I've observed Kate in any number of times during the series: a certain number of viewers assume the worst and dismiss the best. If they didn't see it, it didn't happen; if they did see it, it was just for the cameras.

In any case, I would hope that Jon might be humbling himself too and apologizing for his many wrongs, as well.

And I would *love* it if all of the women who have said vicious, ugly and hurtful things about Kate (or any of the Gosselins) would humble themselves and apologize for their very wrong behavior. They have the opportunity to change their choices and not be such hateful people. I'm sure they would be happier as a result; being so nasty and self-righteous is not good for one's soul. These women would probably be better mothers, wives, friends, as well, were they to get the shame of their spiteful behavior off of their chests.

I do think they should do so publicly, though, since their vile accusations were made in public.

Any takers?

Teresa said...

I think Kevin and Jodi may actually be concerned for the kids.
I think Jon may be waking up and realizing that things need to change I think he was wise to seek support and back-up in facing Kate.
It certainly sounds as if she is capable of nearly anything in order to get her own way.

I am pleased that the truth is finding its way to the surface.
I am very saddened that her Christian platform is a farce.

How very sad for her that her own talk show was worth more to her than her marriage, her faith and her precious children.

Illinois Mom said...

Guinevere said...
We've always known Kate treated Jon horribly--not surprised to hear the crew had a hard time finding acceptable footage to use."We" haven't always known anything. Please don't assume that your opinions are universally shared.


Umm, maybe we are watching a different show. I could write a list of all the times she berated, belittled, demeaned, disrespected, on and on and on. I am not saying that as an opinion, it is what I have seen with both my eyes and heard with both my ears. As far as I am concerned, Kate does treat Jon horribly.

Illinois Mom said...

Private means private.

Yes, it does, but Kate said one thing and is doing another.

Maybe she will go back to "private" next week, who knows.

And I have to disagree, I think the people that you call "haters" started out as fans, and they do indeed care about the Gosselin children.

Guinevere said...

Umm, maybe we are watching a different show. I could write a list of all the times she berated, belittled, demeaned, disrespected, on and on and on. I am not saying that as an opinion, it is what I have seen with both my eyes and heard with both my ears. As far as I am concerned, Kate does treat Jon horribly.Well, it is an opinion, whether you accept it as one or not. "The sky is blue" is a fact. "Kate treats Jon horribly" is an opinion. I don't know how else I can put it so that you can understand the difference between the two.

In any case, my issue with the original poster was her unwillingness to own her opinion without insisting that everyone shared it. I'm assuming she knows the difference between "I" and "we". And you seem to as well, so we are making progress!

Lain said...

All four of them suck. It's like they're having a contest to see who can be the biggest jackass. I think they're all telling half-truths. Jodi had Julie do her dirty work last summer and now Jon's having Jodi do his. Kate is basking in the spotlight and Kevin sold his sister out, meanwhile, the 8 kids they all claim to want to protect so badly are watching from the sidelines. It's lame and reminding me of Junior High.

Linda said...

Lain -

I'm with you on that . . . all 4 of them suck.


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I see Jon's passive and at times passive-aggressive behavior as no less damaging than Kate's behavior.
Always have.

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Julie . . . ughhhhhhhhh.

Anonymous said...

Wow, after viewing the video I can't say that I'm surprised. All though I will take this with a small grain of salt (because EVERY story has 2 sides), I do tend to believe Jodi and Kevin. As to what their motivations are, I don't think anyone can say. I find it plausible that after the events of the last couple of weeks they are fed up and want to get this slow-motion train wreck to a standstill, for everybody's sake. The tabloids and press are not going to let up and continuing a farce will only lead to more damage.

One thing I believe wholeheartedly is that if the theory of so many viewers is true (that the marriage and family life is a total sham and has been so for quite a while) it NEEDS to be brought to light. J&K+8 is supposed to be a REALITY show and is billed as such. Thus, the viewers who want the reality deserve it no matter how ugly. I can't imagine that if what is coming to light is true, the kids will be any more effected by tabloids and the blogosphere. They are LIVING it daily. If the marriage is a shambles J&K obviously need the pressure to either fix it or end it, period. Living a complete farce for the love of filthy lucre is about the worst thing I can imagine. It is akin to prostitution and what is it teaching those precious children?

Bless them all as a family and give them the strength to move forward with a whole marriage or END it.

-ReefGirl

erin said...

I just read the full Star article as posted on GWOP. I have to say, if you ever wanted to get the relationship back with your sibling, probably going to Star Magazine and Radaronline and calling her a cheater not the best way to go about things.

I honestly don't think anyone is right here, they are all acting like children. However, Jon's newfound dislike for the fame and fortune wasn't there until he got busted for the co-eds. He was riding the gravy train right along with Kate until that point, and I think that's why he wants to quit--not because of any desire to protect his kids.

Jodi and Kevin don't get any credit from me, I think it is a really crappy thing to do (as I said before, everyone involved is behaving poorly--even Kate, with whom I sympathize usually).

Momof2 said...

Wow, I was sick in bed all day yesterday...looks loke I missed a LOT.

I read the people article first...sound like a "poor me" article with Kate throwing the father of her kids under the bus.

As far as Kate announcing there was going to be accusations opf her and the bodyguard...she knew somebody was going to come forward and she was trying to do damage control.

I think Jodi and Kevin have had enough...I don't think thats sleazy at all.

Kate is going to try to come out of this with her own show and how she does it all "alone" after what Jon did to her. puhlezze.

Alicia said...

I was all set to believe Kevin and Jodi but then something about the Radar Online interviews doesn't add up.

In the first interview they claim Jon showed up at their door complaining that he was getting a bad rap and Kate had also been unfaithful.

In the second interview they say they haven't talked to the Gosselins in over a year.

It has been reported that Jon's alleged affair with the teacher has been going on for three months.

Sorry, the timeline just doesn't add up.

Tristian said...

This whole situation makes me ill. The fauz "We care about the kids, so we're going to do whatever possible to bring Kate DOWN!" concern from "family" members, online communities, "friends", etc ..... it's so hypocritical. Jealousy brings out the most evil in people, and there is proof of that all over the place concerning Kate.

When this show first starting airing, Kate looked frumpy and boring. People seemed to like her, and the show a lot. (Otherwise, it wouldn't have been kept on the air).

As soon as Kate started doing better -- new hairdo, new clothes, new house, looking more confident -- the claws came out. Yes, there are a few discussions about Jon here and there, but who is the focus always on? Kate and things she says/does/buys.

It's pathetic to me how women become so jealous of other women and proceed to tear them down. Oh, and all in the name of "Help the Kids!" Whatever. I see celebrity moms splashed all over every day who are very questionable mothers (Katie Price, anyone? Shauna Sand? Michelle Duggar? I could go on and on.), yet where is all the outrage when Shauna Sand has her pics taken inside an ice cream shop with her kids, dressed less than a prostitute would dress, sucking the ice cream as if it were a s*x act? In front of her children?

Oh, that's different, I guess. She was never a "normal" mom like you and I and Kate. Little Miss Kate got way too big for her britches, and left the rest of us in the dirt. Child Abuse!

Things have definitely gotten out of control for the Gosselin family and that's sad to me. It's not sad to many, though, in fact, they're having the time of their life analyzing every movement Kate makes, then running to their online community to join the other "concerned" people. This what they've been hoping, hoping, hoping would happen. Bring Kate Down!

The fact that they mock concern for the kids is both pathetic and laughable.

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Millie from Ohio said...

Jodi and Kevin were wrong to do this video interview in my opinion. They are not the purveyors of truth. How dare they! If they truly had motives to issue a plea to Jon or Kate they should've done so in private, by writing, or call. It is WRONG of them to confirm or deny what Jon and Kate trusted to them. And frankly, I do not believe them about the filming and the 8-hour to 15 minute thing, or that film crews spoke to them about Jon and kate fighting. Jodi just wanted some sort of revenge. They've made it worse "for the kids" ... as if that's everyone's motive.

firsttimeposter said...

I can't say that I know any of them because they are just reality TV show characters but from the very few minutes Kevin & Jodi have been shown on TV they seemed like nice people who love their neices & nephews. However, I don't see any mention in the Radaronline videos of the kids at all? If all of this is for the children, why not mention them and how they are being affected? Nothing is being said about them having horrible or even unhappy lives. Kevin & Jodi are just gossiping about Kate as a person and specifically about the struggles of the marriage / "snowjob" of the show. Lots of people struggle in their marriage, lots of people mis-portray themselves to others, and lots of people are rude to their brothers and sisters-in-law. That doesn't make them good people, but that surely doesn't make them evil. If my sister-in-law was rude / unkind to me, I probably would gossip with my friends about the situation, maybe make some rude jokes myself, but the only way I would ever consider it "right" to air anyone's personal dirty laundry to the public would be if I saw it as the only way to help the children out of a bad situation (and even then I would have to think very hard about the actual effectiveness of what I was doing) But Jodi and Kevin don't seem to mention the kids at all? Nothing about the camera's ruing their lives... nothing about the parents' fighting hurting their feelings, no talk of emotional or physical problems, nothing. Just plain gossip about a person they are fighting with. Why?

Connie said...

Alicia - As I understand it, they said they had not talked to 'them' in a year, meaning Jon and Kate, and in the sense of an amicable conversation. The timing would put this shortly after Jon got hairplugs.

Jon recently popped up at their home spilling his guts.

spanglish said...

"I do tend to believe Jodi and Kevin. As to what their motivations are, I don't think anyone can say. I find it plausible that after the events of the last couple of weeks they are fed up and want to get this slow-motion train wreck to a standstill, for everybody's sake. The tabloids and press are not going to let up and continuing a farce will only lead to more damage."


I agree. We are watching the disintegration of a marriage, all played out in front of the public. Many of us have probably experienced, through personal, family, or friends experience, what happens in these situations, and it's usually not pretty. Family and friends take sides, and yes, there are two sides to every story. Each side believes they're right and the other is wrong.

The public is only seeing the tip of the iceberg, the most lurid claims about infidelity, in the Gosselin break-up. But you can bet there is far more that's not out there, or at least not yet. Hence Kate's preemptive strike to establish herself as the wronged party, and now Jon's retaliation via Kate's brother and his wife speaking out about Kate.

There is a lot at stake: the terms of custody, how the assets will be divided. The more mud one can sling at the other, the more they can bring into court to support their claim. And of course, the kids are the innocent victims.

At this point, I can't see how the marriage can be salvaged. Neither one seems interested in attempting a reconciliation. I've seen no statements like, "I love my (wife/husband) and we want to find a way to make this work." I don't believe either one has the maturity to realize the effect of their behavior on their children.

JP said...

Sorry if this has been asked...

On the first Jodi and Kevin video there is a line in the article that says they have not spoken to the gosselins in a year.

Then Kevin goes on to mention that six months ago Jon knocked on their door. Does this confuse anyone else?? Does he mean he hasn't talked to more than 1 gosselin in a year? I'm lost...

sarahandco said...

Sorry ,here in the uk.we are extremely aware of reality shows ,and the effects they have on all who take place on them..(see.katie and Peter..stateside...about jordan (the ex model) ,and peter andre)..now separating ,and leaving 3 children confused ,and upset)..
The only ones i feel for in this "travesty"..are the sweet 8 gosselin kids ,who`ve been dragged into the limelight ,by a greedy couple of parents ,who ,as kate ,the so called "wonder mother" ,has proved..no matter how much her husband can see this turning into a complete shambles...when $$$$$$$ signs flash before her eyes ,NOBODy..nor NO-ONE..not even her beautiful children ,can persuade her to stay home with them ,and put them first..
sorry ,but she is quoted whatever show deems to have her on....that if she didnt sell "one single copy of her "book"..she didnt care,,,it was a record for them)
EXCUSE ME???WHO IS SHE TRYING TO KID??
If she genuinely felt that way..she`d be at home with them ,instead of parading around the us..flogging it to any poor unsuspecting fool ,who seriously believes the claptrap she speels!
GO HOME..TAKE CARE OF THE KIDS..YOU CHOSE TO HAVE...AND QUIT FLOGGING YOUR KIDS TO THE NATION...
enough IS enough!!!

suzette said...

If I remember correctly Kate never said she does it alone she has always said someone folds the laundry and people who help this is a bitter couple hell bent on helping to destroy them they should be ashamed of themselves where are the tabloids digging into their past for dirt for the frount page of a mag their kids can see aat the store they are just pissed they arent cashing in enough from this and im sure something ele=se happened for them to do this to them and Kate should have left her out of this in the first place funny how you never saw the brother before or heard her skeak of him or their parents they have said they (family) dint want to be a part of it and theyrespected that he is only wanting what he thinks is due his wife and does he or she think this is helping the kids THEY did this for themoney and the fame wonder how many talk shows they will be on paying them so they can cash in on their familys miery shame on them I hope nothing good comes from any cash they get from this karma is a b**** and I hope they get lots of it after all they are owed it shameful excuse for family Jon and Kate made a mistake trusting these two jokers posing as family after all with family like this who needs enemies right they should get the same treatment i hope it comes back to them 100 fold.

Stop this Train Wreck now. said...

I watched the premeire on Monday and it will be the last episode I watch. I think it is morally wrong to put this family suffering on display. I am relatively new to the show, having only seen some episodes in Seasons 3 and 4. Only over the weekend with the marathon did I catch any of the Jodi episodes and the orginal Discovery Channel specials and I am horrified at the changes, in Kate in particular.

I am relieved to see someone reasonably questioning the motives of Jodi and Kevin, though. I'm not sure who knighted them as protector of these children. Jon and Kate are wrong to keep this going, undoubtedly. But there are many, many other, more constructive ways for Kevin and Jodi to be approaching this and their choices lead me to believe that they are media whoring just as much as Kate is, without Kate's veneer of "regret" about her many, many mistakes.

This interview that the Kreiders gave on CBS, painted as people who are "concerned about the children" was a FAR CRY from the intenet video interviews where they blow the lid on the alleged post-nup agreement that Jon can have girlfriends as long as he shows up for filming. PLEASE. That could very well be true, but how does it help the GOSSELIN CHILDREN to know this is going on? Kevin and Jodi say it's all about the ratings - well by selling themselves out to the tabloids, they inadvertantly helped boost the ratings considerably, solidifying the network's excuse to keep filming. Way to go there, Jodi and Kevin.

I don't want to hear squat from Kevin and Jodi until they get off their rumps and prove that they have gone to authorities, lobbied Senators Specter and Casey and their represenation in the Pennsyvlania legislature and called CPS if they feel so strongly that the kids are being harmed. (Personally, I think they children ARE Being harmed and htis needs to stop An aunt or uncle with EVIDENCE is needed. Spend that time publishing failed attempts to see elected officials on the internet rather than doing what you accuse Kate of doing, preening for the camera and spreading gossip). Don't assume that "some elected official" will notice. CALL SENATOR SPECTER AND CASEY AND MAKE IT freaking happen. Bring a camera into THEIR OFFICES and ask for help. WAY MORE CONSTRUCTIVE THAN SELLING YOURSELVES TO STAR MAGAZINE.

And I was laughing at Jodi's Ann Taylor Loft sweater on the CBS interview this morning. Trying to emulate Kate there, much buy making your CBS debut in a cardigan from "her store?"

http://www.anntaylorloft.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=17024&N=1200259&categoryId=2099&Ns=CATEGORY_SEQ_2099&loc=LN&defaultColorNameFromCategory=Forest%20Green&defaultSizeTypeFromCategory=Misses